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DZ83CK
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Kluber did win the Cy Young in 2017, but I still maintain his 2016 was better. He was lights-out in the 2016 playoffs (aside from the short rest Game 7 start), and in 2017 he gave up 9 runs over two playoff starts. Plus it was easier to pile up a lot of wins and stats in 2017 as the AL Central started to really bottom out and the Tribe had one of their best ever lineups.
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DZ83CK
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DeShields Jr. is like the stereotypical Francona player - he can't hit, but he can field and steal a lot of bases, so he was bound to join Francona at some point. I'm just surprised they didnt go for Billy Hamilton when they could.
Clase in theory looks to bring a degree of heat to the pen that Cleveland has been lacking lately.
Clase in theory looks to bring a degree of heat to the pen that Cleveland has been lacking lately.
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DZ83CK
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You have to wonder, where exactly is the $15 million they save from trading Kluber for DeShields Jr. & Clase this year going? They already saved $18M on trading Bauer & not paying him this year (Reyes has only been paid about $500K/yr). Plus they got Kipnis's bad contract off the books ($14.5M last season). For a team that has freed up a lot of cash, fans should expect a substantial investment in other players this offseason.
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Well, they actually put some money into the team from 2016-17.
The rebuilds really have been in 2002, 2008-09 and it looks like we're starting v3.0 now. We've had a pretty good run for a small market team from 2013-19.
Thing is, I don't HATE dealing Kluber. He's had injury issues lately and he seemed like he was beginning to enter a decline during 2018 and was pretty awful last year before going on the DL. I'd imagine the market wasn't very robust for him.
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I'd be surprised if they spend much at all other than their usual dumpster dives.
I expect they'll finish ~.500 with dwindling attendance and kick off a fire sale.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
MLB rumors: Indians could keep selling after Kluber trade as Dodgers target Lindor, Clevinger
Now let's get to Sunday's rumors.
Dodgers focused on Lindor, maybe Clevinger
The Indians probably aren't through selling, and on that front Jorge Castillo of the Los Angeles Times reports that the Dodgers are angling for Cleveland shortstop Francisco Lindor. That much we knew, but Castillo adds that Indians right-hander Mike Clevinger is also of interest to the Dodgers.
Lindor, 26, is a plus glove at the most premium position on the diamond, and for his career he's averaged 29 home runs and 40 doubles per 162 games played. All of that is in addition to his speed on the bases and highly marketable personality. Even with an arbitration raise over his $10.85 million salary for 2019, he's going to be underpaid. What adds to his immense trade value is that Lindor isn't eligible for free agency until after the 2021 season.
Clevinger is going into his age-29 campaign. Last season, he posted an impressive 174 ERA+ with a 4.57 K/BB ratio in 126 innings (he missed time with back and ankle injuries). Over the last three seasons, Clevinger has an ERA+ of 152, which on a rate basis makes him one of the top pitchers in baseball over that span. He reached new heights in 2019 thanks to strides at the command and control levels. Clevinger isn't eligible for free agency until after the 2022 season.
Needless to say, either of these names would command a high price in trade, but the Dodgers have the young talent base to get something done.
Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/...ber-trade-as-dodgers-target-lindor-clevinger/
Now let's get to Sunday's rumors.
Dodgers focused on Lindor, maybe Clevinger
The Indians probably aren't through selling, and on that front Jorge Castillo of the Los Angeles Times reports that the Dodgers are angling for Cleveland shortstop Francisco Lindor. That much we knew, but Castillo adds that Indians right-hander Mike Clevinger is also of interest to the Dodgers.
Lindor, 26, is a plus glove at the most premium position on the diamond, and for his career he's averaged 29 home runs and 40 doubles per 162 games played. All of that is in addition to his speed on the bases and highly marketable personality. Even with an arbitration raise over his $10.85 million salary for 2019, he's going to be underpaid. What adds to his immense trade value is that Lindor isn't eligible for free agency until after the 2021 season.
Clevinger is going into his age-29 campaign. Last season, he posted an impressive 174 ERA+ with a 4.57 K/BB ratio in 126 innings (he missed time with back and ankle injuries). Over the last three seasons, Clevinger has an ERA+ of 152, which on a rate basis makes him one of the top pitchers in baseball over that span. He reached new heights in 2019 thanks to strides at the command and control levels. Clevinger isn't eligible for free agency until after the 2022 season.
Needless to say, either of these names would command a high price in trade, but the Dodgers have the young talent base to get something done.
Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/...ber-trade-as-dodgers-target-lindor-clevinger/
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The market is rarely robust for 34-year old a starting pitcher with injury issues and a fastball that tops out at 92mph...
Prediction: The Indians will win 90+ games and win the Central.
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BuckBackHome
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I like your thinking!
Now if these bonehead browns fans would spend their money going to Indians games, where they win consistently, instead of the Haslam clown show I would be very happy.
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