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Cleveland Cavs (2016 NBA Champions)

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It's good to see Kyrie starting to look like Kyrie again. When he's on offensively it makes Lebron's life a lot easier. Hopefully everyone gets healthy over the break and they end the season like they did last year.
 
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Chasing down GSW; how does Melo help that? Elite scorer, sure, but his defense is relatively on par with Love albeit at a different spot. Unfortunately that spot is GSW's strength so I think it's a net subtraction considering Loves rebounding and to a smaller degree outlet passing.
 
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fanaticbuckeye said:
Chasing down GSW; how does Melo help that? Elite scorer, sure, but his defense is relatively on par with Love albeit at a different spot. Unfortunately that spot is GSW's strength so I think it's a net subtraction considering Loves rebounding and to a smaller degree outlet passing.
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Hey... Until Chris broussard tells me it's happening its not true
 
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I'm intrigued by the idea. I really haven't watched Melo play that often. Is his defense a lack of effort more than anything? Maybe he would turn that up if he were in a meaningful playoff series, which is something he's never been involved in if my memory is correct.

In this scenario, how do the Cavs work out the positioning? Does Lebron play a lot more at the 4? If not, the Cavs would need another big body since Mozgov was mentioned in that trade along with Love.
 
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Buckeye737 said:
I'm intrigued by the idea. I really haven't watched Melo play that often. Is his defense a lack of effort more than anything? Maybe he would turn that up if he were in a meaningful playoff series, which is something he's never been involved in if my memory is correct.

In this scenario, how do the Cavs work out the positioning? Does Lebron play a lot more at the 4? If not, the Cavs would need another big body since Mozgov was mentioned in that trade along with Love.
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Melo = black hole... once he gets the ball it never comes out unless he shoots + he's even more a liability on the Defensive end than Love considering Melo is a straight 3.
 
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Love for Melo...No thanks. Melo is worse on defense, never passes on offense, old as Lebron, and will never improve on defense. never.
How can you still hate the Wiggins for Love trade now that we have Love locked in a long term contract?
Love is still a proven commodity with high experience and IQ, yet still in his prime.
There are a lot of great players we could trade Love for.

I say we either trade Love right now, or if we don't win the title, we trade him in the offseason.
At this point, I would just like to see someone more athletic on this team.
Love is 6'10" yet its shocking to see him dunk the ball.
 
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Windbag is reporting that the Cavs have expressed interest to other teams about trading Love, but they never inquired about Melo. The Cavs want another star, the Celtics want Love, so they have looked around the league at a possible 3rd team to make a trade happen.

I know we've been in win now mode, but I wouldn't mind seeing Love go for someone like Okafor. Then we could find a cheapie stretch four to help out.
 
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Buckeye737 said:
Windbag is reporting that the Cavs have expressed interest to other teams about trading Love, but they never inquired about Melo. The Cavs want another star, the Celtics want Love, so they have looked around the league at a possible 3rd team to make a trade happen.

I know we've been in win now mode, but I wouldn't mind seeing Love go for someone like Okafor. Then we could find a cheapie stretch four to help out.
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I just don't know how the Cavs move Love and get better. I don't see a player out there on the trading block that fills in what the Cavs need better than Love. Not that Love is the best fit, but there isn't a Draymond Green clone on the market. About the only thing I could see making the Cavs a better matchup against the good teams in the West would be making Lebron the stretch 4 and finding someone else to play the 3. I wasn't a huge fan of the Love trade when they made it, but I was under the assumption that Bennett would turn into a decent stretch 4, which didn't happen. Looking at it now the Cavs have more value with Love under contract than they would have with Wiggins. Maybe a deal where Love goes to Boston, Timo moves, Boston sends picks somewhere for a near all-star that can play the 3/4 for the Cavs, and the Cavs also get Ryan Anderson. All of the shitty draft picks that Grant made are really biting the Cavs in the ass now. If he had done a better job Lebron could have come back to a team primed for title runs without any of the trades that they had to make. If they make a move hopefully Griffin can pull some magic like he did last winter.

Something like this works, but I doubt the Celtics are willing to pay the price in picks to get it done.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hkqs6vl
 
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exhawg said:
I just don't know how the Cavs move Love and get better. I don't see a player out there on the trading block that fills in what the Cavs need better than Love. Not that Love is the best fit, but there isn't a Draymond Green clone on the market. About the only thing I could see making the Cavs a better matchup against the good teams in the West would be making Lebron the stretch 4 and finding someone else to play the 3. I wasn't a huge fan of the Love trade when they made it, but I was under the assumption that Bennett would turn into a decent stretch 4, which didn't happen. Looking at it now the Cavs have more value with Love under contract than they would have with Wiggins. Maybe a deal where Love goes to Boston, Timo moves, Boston sends picks somewhere for a near all-star that can play the 3/4 for the Cavs, and the Cavs also get Ryan Anderson. All of the [Mark May]ty draft picks that Grant made are really biting the Cavs in the ass now. If he had done a better job Lebron could have come back to a team primed for title runs without any of the trades that they had to make. If they make a move hopefully Griffin can pull some magic like he did last winter.

Something like this works, but I doubt the Celtics are willing to pay the price in picks to get it done.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hkqs6vl
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Yeah, I mean, to me there's nothing really major out there to be had. From my perspective, they made the big move by switching to Lue. From that perspective, its a long time till June...and getting rid of good players (Love) to get back maybe players (whoever that is) doesn't seem like a great idea... if they feel like they can move Mozgov and get a defender, fine but, honestly, you might be better off waiting to see if he can get healthier to have for the Eastern Conference playoffs (you still need to get through that, and why the fuck would we want to give the Celtics Love?) and spend some time optimizing the players we have with the system Lue wants to run. And again, a long time till June... Klay Thompson could fall down some icy steps, Steph Curry could get caught with a dozen tranny hookers. You can't count on that stuff, but, one of those guys or Green or Iguadola isn't available and all of the sudden there's a big chink in the armor.
 
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