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Cleveland Cavs (2016 NBA Champions)

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AuTX Buckeye said:
sweet 356 before we do this all over again.
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I read an article that Lebron will probably do this for a couple more years until the Cavs own his full Bird rights and then he'll sign a 5 year max deal. Of course That will also work our for him since he'll be 37 or so by the time that deal runs out and probably not worth the 50 mil (joking, slightly) he'll be making at that time.
 
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I dont care how much these guys make, they're all grossly overpaid. I just want a freaking championship!

Funny though, how no one talks about how the Spurs are building their team and their rosters with All-Stars on it like they are with Cleveland.
 
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Bestbuck36 said:
I dont care how much these guys make, they're all grossly overpaid. I just want a freaking championship!

Funny though, how no one talks about how the Spurs are building their team and their rosters with All-Stars on it like they are with Cleveland.
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Cause the Spurs aren't giving everyone max deals. That and Pop's shit smells like roses.

Funny thing is that so far the Cavs have signed 1 guy that wasn't on the team last year. Spurs have been wheeling and dealing all over the place.
 
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via ESPN

If Thompson signs a five-year, $80 million deal, Smith comes back for $6 million, Dellavedova signs for $5 million and the Cavs do not take the Haywood cap savings for themselves but instead trade his deal for another $10.5M player, the Cavs' payroll would swell to about $124 million. By virtue of being almost $40 million over the tax line, the Cavs would pay a tax over $131 million for a total expenditure of $255 million of Dan Gilbert's hard-earned dollars.

Therefore, it's unlikely the Cavs bring back all three players and acquire additional payroll for Haywood's contract. Under the aforementioned projection, if the Cavs re-signed Thompson, Smith and Dellavedova and just waived Haywood's non-guaranteed contract they would save over $51 million in taxes and almost $62 million total due to the increasing nature of the tax, resulting in a total tax of $80 million and a total expenditure around $193M.


Cleveland could also trade Haywood to a team with cap space (like the 76ers) and receive a $10.5 million trade exception (the value of Haywood's contract). They could then use the trade exception to acquire a $10.5 million player later in the season or just take advantage of the cap savings by waiving Haywood themselves.
 
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Starters: Irving, Shump, Lebron, Love, Mozgov
Backups: Mo, Crawford, JR, Thompson, Varejao
Bench: Delly, Jones, Miller, Harris, Christmas

That would be a scary team. Legit 10 deep.
Next time in the Finals we would have: Mo, Irving, Crawford, Love, Varejao
That's enough talent to be their own starting 5 unit. Basically adding another team onto the team we had last year, in the finals.

Crawford is only 6M, so at least the Cavs wouldn't have to cover the entire 10.5 Haywood contract.
Also, who is crazy enough to pay Delly 5M? His offense and passing skills are average at best.
 
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NJ-Buckeye said:
via ESPN

If Thompson signs a five-year, $80 million deal, Smith comes back for $6 million, Dellavedova signs for $5 million and the Cavs do not take the Haywood cap savings for themselves but instead trade his deal for another $10.5M player, the Cavs' payroll would swell to about $124 million. By virtue of being almost $40 million over the tax line, the Cavs would pay a tax over $131 million for a total expenditure of $255 million of Dan Gilbert's hard-earned dollars.

Therefore, it's unlikely the Cavs bring back all three players and acquire additional payroll for Haywood's contract. Under the aforementioned projection, if the Cavs re-signed Thompson, Smith and Dellavedova and just waived Haywood's non-guaranteed contract they would save over $51 million in taxes and almost $62 million total due to the increasing nature of the tax, resulting in a total tax of $80 million and a total expenditure around $193M.


Cleveland could also trade Haywood to a team with cap space (like the 76ers) and receive a $10.5 million trade exception (the value of Haywood's contract). They could then use the trade exception to acquire a $10.5 million player later in the season or just take advantage of the cap savings by waiving Haywood themselves.
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I mean Gilbert can find that in his couch cushions....

http://amicohoops.net/2015/07/cavs-tax-potential-not-so-luxurious/

Bobby Marks @BobbyMarks42
Part 1: As @ChrisMannixSI reported Matt Del. looking for $4m. If CLE signed off on that it would equal the salary/taxes of a max player.



I think this is the team... I think they might break JR back.... but Delly would have to sign his qualifying offer.. I think its a pipe dream to think that Gilbert (a pretty damn smart business guy) just open the flood gates and pay ANYTHING...he like all people have their limits.
 
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AuTX Buckeye said:
I mean Gilbert can find that in his couch cushions....

http://amicohoops.net/2015/07/cavs-tax-potential-not-so-luxurious/

Bobby Marks @BobbyMarks42
Part 1: As @ChrisMannixSI reported Matt Del. looking for $4m. If CLE signed off on that it would equal the salary/taxes of a max player.



I think this is the team... I think they might break JR back.... but Delly would have to sign his qualifying offer.. I think its a pipe dream to think that Gilbert (a pretty damn smart business guy) just open the flood gates and pay ANYTHING...he like all people have their limits.
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I think Delly knows this is his time to cash in, but he's overplaying his hand. Baring injury his minutes are going to go way down next year and even then things would really have to go in the shitter for him to start a game. His minutes could get even more reduced if they brought in another insurance policy for PG like Cole. If he takes the qualifying offer and walks next year after playing 10 minutes a game this year he'll be lucky to get more than a minimum contract. Delly is a nice guy to have on the team, but if he is higher than your 4th guard you are in trouble.

I do want them to bring Smith back. Seeing as he is unrestricted and hasn't signed I'm guessing the market isn't what he thought it would be. I still think it was a bad call for him to opt out. He should have picked up next year played another season like he just did and then try to cash in when the cap goes up next year. Even then he has been enough of a headcase that any team will be afraid to throw money at him. I'm not sure how flexible NBA contracts are but a 3 years deal that pays him 4/6/8 might be good for both parties to take advantage of the rising cap.
 
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Cavs are probably waiting for these folks to get an offer from anyone else... then they will match it
It's their way of saying.. go find out what your competitive worth is.. cuz it ain't your emotional number
 
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