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Cleveland Cavs (2016 NBA Champions)

NJ-Buckeye;1948027; said:
IF there is a complete washout of the 2011-2012 season... can we have the #1 & #4 picks next year too?


no one knows...all speculation...i doubt we would still have the #1 and #4...but i think we could have the #1 and then the rest of the order is filled out by the previous lottery results and how playoff teams finished for the season
 
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cant wait!! If Kyrie turns out like he should our future is very bright. Cant wait to pickup his #2 jersey!!

do bad for only 1 more season. Pray the Kings make the playoffs. Get a lottery and mid 1st rounder in what will be a stacked draft (Sullinger, Barnes, Rivers, Jones III, Terence Jones, etc.)

Kyrie
Buford
Barnes
Tristan
Varejao

or

Kyrie
Buford
(somebody)
Tristan
Jones III

Sullinger doesnt really fit the team since we drafted Tristan (which was a risk..he better be lockin down on D)

plus we got Miami's 2012 2nd rounder, and starting 2013 we have their 1st rounder till 2017 i think lol

East is gonna be tuff for the next 5 years with Miami, Chicago, New York tho
 
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BUCK3YE5;2058221; said:
cant wait!! If Kyrie turns out like he should our future is very bright. Cant wait to pickup his #2 jersey!!

do bad for only 1 more season. Pray the Kings make the playoffs. Get a lottery and mid 1st rounder in what will be a stacked draft (Sullinger, Barnes, Rivers, Jones III, Terence Jones, etc.)

Kyrie
Buford
Barnes
Tristan
Varejao

or

Kyrie
Buford
(somebody)
Tristan
Jones III

Sullinger doesnt really fit the team since we drafted Tristan (which was a risk..he better be lockin down on D)

plus we got Miami's 2012 2nd rounder, and starting 2013 we have their 1st rounder till 2017 i think lol

East is gonna be tuff for the next 5 years with Miami, Chicago, New York tho

kings have a shot at making the playoffs....i said a shot...if tyreke evans and hickson mesh well they may get a 8 seed...not sure if west will be as tough this year...as far as draft picks we have 1 first round pick, and im trying to figure out what REALGM means by this..."Own or to MIA; may have MIA; may have SAC"...either way we have our 2nd round pick and New Orleans 2nd rounder...we should suck pretty good this year but im all for getting rid of baron davis with the amnesty clause before the season starts...then im down for trading jamison, sessions and verajo for younger players or draft picks
 
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and i figured out what the deal is for 2012

2012 first round draft pick from Miami
Cleveland has the right to swap their own 2012 1st round pick with Miami's own 1st round pick. [Cleveland - Miami, 7/9/2010]
2012 first round draft pick from Sacramento
Sacramento's own 2012 first round draft pick to Cleveland (top-14 protected in the 2012 Draft, top-13 protected in 2013, top-12 protected in 2014, top-10 protected in 2015, top-10 protected in 2016 and top-10 protected in the 2017 Draft) If Cleveland has not received a first round pick from Sacramento by 2017, then Sacramento shall convey their own 2017 2nd round draft pick to Cleveland provided it is within the top-55 picks. If it is not, then Sacramento's obligation to Cleveland shall be extinguished. (Cleveland-Sacramento, 6/30/2011)
2012 second round draft pick from New Orleans
New Orleans' own 2012 2nd round pick to Cleveland via Miami. [Miami - New Orleans, 6/25/2009 and then Cleveland - Miami, 7/9/2010]
Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed#ixzz1fj38r1Ak

so pretty much we wont be trading picks with miami in the first round
 
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i mean the kings have talent (tyreke/cousins/hickson) but they're all tools lol.

maybe if Jimmer goes hax..nawt

we'll see what happens. Even if the Cavs cant make any trades happen the future will be very bright just from the 2012 draft.
 
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BUCK3YE5;2058274; said:
i mean the kings have talent (tyreke/cousins/hickson) but they're all tools lol.

maybe if Jimmer goes hax..nawt

we'll see what happens. Even if the Cavs cant make any trades happen the future will be very bright just from the 2012 draft.

even if we dont get SAC's first rounder i guarantee Grant will be trying very very hard to get into the first round again with another pick
 
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y0yoyoin;2058270; said:
kings have a shot at making the playoffs....i said a shot...if tyreke evans and hickson mesh well they may get a 8 seed...not sure if west will be as tough this year...as far as draft picks we have 1 first round pick, and im trying to figure out what REALGM means by this..."Own or to MIA; may have MIA; may have SAC"...either way we have our 2nd round pick and New Orleans 2nd rounder...we should suck pretty good this year but im all for getting rid of baron davis with the amnesty clause before the season starts...then im down for trading jamison, sessions and verajo for younger players or draft picks

I'm holding on to Davis at least through this season. If they use the amnesty clause they will end up paying him to play in Miami. Fuck no. Cap space doesn't mean anything to the Cavs because they will never be able to sign a big FA. Davis might have more value next year when they can trade him to a team that is looking to get out of a longer term contract. Jamison will be in that boat this year.
 
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exhawg;2058339; said:
I'm holding on to Davis at least through this season. If they use the amnesty clause they will end up paying him to play in Miami. [censored] no. Cap space doesn't mean anything to the Cavs because they will never be able to sign a big FA. Davis might have more value next year when they can trade him to a team that is looking to get out of a longer term contract. Jamison will be in that boat this year.

Don't forget teams have to spend i think 85% of the cap this year and then 90% after that... agreed no since in cutting anyone lose, they can be trade bait later in the year
 
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AuTX Buckeye;2058346; said:
Don't forget teams have to spend i think 85% of the cap this year and then 90% after that... agreed no since in cutting anyone lose, they can be trade bait later in the year

they aren't dumping baron davis. however, if they did, all it would take is cleveland picking up one amnesty player for about the mle and they will hit 85%. they are likely to try and trade davis at the deadline. by the by, i don't think amnesty players can really choose where they go, i think it's a waiver type system.
 
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tsteele316;2058349; said:
they aren't dumping baron davis. however, if they did, all it would take is cleveland picking up one amnesty player for about the mle and they will hit 85%. they are likely to try and trade davis at the deadline. by the by, i don't think amnesty players can really choose where they go, i think it's a waiver type system.

I still have the fear that Davis would clear waviers and end up in Miami. As far as I can tell expiring contracts are still like gold in the NBA so they might as well hold onto it until something better comes along. IIRC the amnesty clause will still be available for any contract that is currently in the books for at least a couple years so there isn't anything stopping them from waiting until next summer or even next season to use it.
 
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