Cleveland Browns (official thread of Masochism 2015)

[wadc45]

Good article, funny how every position from '14 to '15 has been "upgraded" besides TE though

There are definitely some brown colored glasses being used over there. Was just reading this piece yesterday:

http://www.dawgpoundnation.com/2015...ive-surprises-of-browns-training-camp-so-far/

So after reading either of those should we really expect 6-10 or 7-9? I seriously need to temper my expectations when I read Dawg Pound Nation.

 

[Buckeneye]

DPN is a joke. However to say this team hasn't received an influx of talent in the off-season would be inaccurate to say the least.

 

[Bucklion]

Upgrades: receiving RB, height at WR, depth on the OL, DT, OLB, CB, P

Downgrades: QB (not worse personnel exactly, just digging a bigger hole), TE, hopes

 

[kujirakira]

Doing good: staph infections
Bad: hamstrings

 

[Buckeneye]

Mingo out 4-6 weeks. Gives Orchard and Solomon a long look. Plus the whispers of Monty playing some OLB.

Positive note, Shelton was bumped up to the 1's and showing out quite well.

Edit: oh, Hartline.

 

[NFBuck]

Downgrades: QB (not worse personnel exactly, just digging a bigger hole), TE, hopes

Unless Johnny Goodtimes can suddenly play QB, the clowns will continue to spin their wheels as an organization until they can find (at least) an above average QB. This is a QB driven league, and it's no coincidence that this franchise has been a paragon of suck since its rebirth. You look at the one decent year they've has in the last decade plus, 2007, and that was the one year they had decent QB play...until the last few weeks, anyway. McCown obviously is a stopgap. Goodtimes, until proven otherwise, is a pile of dung. They have upgraded the roster to the extent that they are capable of at least falling out of the top-10 in the draft if they get something above "sludgefart" play at QB. So the dilemma is--how do they find the long-term answer at QB?

If the goal is to simply not be horrible, and maybe occasionally slip into the postseason only to be crushed in the first 2 rounds, they just need somebody that can play to the level Hoyer did for the first 10-11 weeks last year...that is--above "sludgefart" level. However, if they want to become a legitimate champeenship-competitor, they have to figure out a way to find a good to very good QB lower in the draft. Something they have failed to do for 16 years.

 

[NJ-Buckeye]

At the current pace, Browns scrimmages are going to be 7X7
and everyone else will be practicing the Mike Hart drills.. on the stationary bikes
Pretty sure with Desir going down today with a hammy, that makes 84 guys out with leg injuries.. and 18 guys left to practice

 

[Bucklion]

At the current pace, Browns scrimmages are going to be 7X7
and everyone else will be practicing the Mike Hart drills.. on the stationary bikes
Pretty sure with Desir going down today with a hammy, that makes 84 guys out with leg injuries.. and 18 guys left to practice

Seriously, this is getting ridiculous...when did Kevin Nash become our conditioning coach?

 

[LostLassie]

Don't know why it took so many years for this to occur to me, but it just did now...

When they named the team the Cleveland Browns, do ya' 'spose it was meant to be a great big hint that we could expect every single season they played to end up in the crapper?

 

[jlb1705]

Don't know why it took so many years for this to occur to me, but it just did now...

When they named the team the Cleveland Browns, do ya' 'spose it was meant to be a great big hint that we could expect every single season they played to end up in the crapper?

I didn't know there were people still out there who didn't realize you could make poop jokes about the Browns.

Just about every mouth-breathing Bengals in Cincinnati fan has one written on the palm of their hand so they can remember what to say when they encounter a Browns fan.

 

[LostLassie]

I didn't know there were people still out there who didn't realize you could make poop jokes about the Browns.

Guess I'm a slow learner. (Evidenced by the fact that I still allow myself to watch the occasional Browns "game" expecting to see some football--silly me.)

 

[Buckeneye]

Guess I'm a slow learner. (Evidenced by the fact that I still allow myself to watch the occasional Browns "game" expecting to see some football--silly me.)

Save for injuries that derailed the season, I'd say you missed last year then.

 

[kujirakira]

Save for injuries that derailed the season, I'd say you missed last year then.

I let myself get sucked in, and there were definitely some good games (esp that Cinci game)
But... it got real bad at the end. So bad that I have a hard time thinking the first half was anything more than a fluke.

 

[BIATCHabutuka]

Not researching it, but it fits a theory of mine so it must be true.

I thought the schedule was a little easier in the front half of the schedule.

If I was scheduling NFL games for the league, I would give the weaker teams weaker schedules to start the season to give their fans false hope.

Big fan of strength based scheduling like the NFL, like anything it can be even better, but better than what the college conferences are doing for sure.

 

[LitlBuck]

I know that a intra-squad scrimmage does not mean squat but maybe there is a little bit of hope for Johnny. At least his teammates are saying good things about him. I guess we shall see when the real scrimmages begin and more pressure is put on him.