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Cleveland Browns (Finally drafting Buckeyes)

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Nope, Jim Brown. Brown was one of the greatest players of all time, but look up all his legal issues. I don’t really believe in curses and superstition, but something is off with this franchise. If they can find a way to piss away a game, they will. Been that way since the AFC championship games they lost to Denver. They should’ve won both, and probably would’ve fared better in the Super Bowl. I’ll believe that until I die. Kinda like the Miami Hurricanes after Ohio State beat them 20 years ago. On paper, it shouldn’t have happened, but it did. Miami hasn’t been the same ever since. Funny how sports seem to work. What if Cleveland drafted Tom Brady?
 
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GreenwoodBuck said:
Nope, Jim Brown. Brown was one of the greatest players of all time, but look up all his legal issues. I don’t really believe in curses and superstition, but something is off with this franchise. If they can find a way to piss away a game, they will. Been that way since the AFC championship games they lost to Denver. They should’ve won both, and probably would’ve fared better in the Super Bowl. I’ll believe that until I die. Kinda like the Miami Hurricanes after Ohio State beat them 20 years ago. On paper, it shouldn’t have happened, but it did. Miami hasn’t been the same ever since. Funny how sports seem to work. What if Cleveland drafted Tom Brady?
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Can’t argue with you on any of that.

If Cleveland had drafted TB he would’ve been out of the league in a couple of years.
 
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AKAK said:
It was quarters wasn't it?
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I thought that at first, but the way Denzel leveraged himself, and the way it was MFC, I don't want to rule out some sort of 3 cloud.
Like you said, the way the camera shots are aligned makes it almost impossible to tell without going back and watching the coaches film.

Won't know until the All-22 is released. Which will be about this time tomorrow for me.
 
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Buckeneye said:
I thought that at first, but the way Denzel leveraged himself, and the way it was MFC, I don't want to rule out some sort of 3 cloud.
Like you said, the way the camera shots are aligned makes it almost impossible to tell without going back and watching the coaches film.

Won't know until the All-22 is released. Which will be about this time tomorrow for me.
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Yeah let us know.. thanks
 
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The all22 isn't out yet, but I did want to jump out on this one because it bothered me the second it happened and supports my belief of Delpit a problem in his expanded role.



At 6:05 the flat to Hall for the TD.

Go figure to Delpit's side. But when you get that motion and all you're left with is the 3 over 2 triangle to the boundary, you can't use base match quarters when your #1 to that side is on a reduced split. Because all he has to do is get the smallest rub on the curl/flat backer, then carry upfield which drags the corner and safety with him. It would be every bit as pitch to the RB flat in theory as it ended up being.

What you would (likely) check into is a cover 2 look that uses trap principles. So both the safety and corner read 2 to 1. If the 2 immediately releases flat, Denzel picks him up. That means the weak hook backer to your side can levetage inside of the #1 WR going upfield and help to wall off the post. Also allows Delpit to play directly over top or outside eye and not be beaten back down to his outside shoulder. Again, in theory when proper leverage is used. But in that clip, I don't see a check to either JoK or Denzel given by Delpit.

Leads me to believe this is a combination of things.

- Young corners (not Denzel, I'm referring to the busts from the Panthers game) that need to be up to game speed

- Delpit not ready for the role he has been handed. His lack of communication lends itself to that. Because this combination to that side is football 101. Football IQ and situational awareness are everything.

Those sort of things rightly fall on Woods' shoulders because if your players aren't capable or ready, then you can't deploy them in that way. Wouldn't surprise me to see Delpits role reduced back to where it was last season, the role that Harrison is currently filling a the big nickel and dime backer.

I know you didn't ask and I will get to the late TD bust at some point tonight. Just figured I'd drop this off along the way as well.

Edit: and extra unnecessary... if the back doesn't release flat immediately, Delpit can leverage himself back to the inside of the #1 while Denzel builds his 1/4 integrity with a bit of depth. That would give him the positioning to help double any route which breaks out and allows him to recover underneath should anything present shallow. Thinking like the QB - touchdown to check down.
 
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Buckeneye said:
@AKAK

The all22 isn't out yet, but I did want to jump out on this one because it bothered me the second it happened and supports my belief of Delpit a problem in his expanded role.



At 6:05 the flat to Hall for the TD.

Go figure to Delpit's side. But when you get that motion and all you're left with is the 3 over 2 triangle to the boundary, you can't use base match quarters when your #1 to that side is on a reduced split. Because all he has to do is get the smallest rub on the curl/flat backer, then carry upfield which drags the corner and safety with him. It would be every bit as pitch to the RB flat in theory as it ended up being.

What you would (likely) check into is a cover 2 look that uses trap principles. So both the safety and corner read 2 to 1. If the 2 immediately releases flat, Denzel picks him up. That means the weak hook backer to your side can levetage inside of the #1 WR going upfield and help to wall off the post. Also allows Delpit to play directly over top or outside eye and not be beaten back down to his outside shoulder. Again, in theory when proper leverage is used. But in that clip, I don't see a check to either JoK or Denzel given by Delpit.

Leads me to believe this is a combination of things.

- Young corners (not Denzel, I'm referring to the busts from the Panthers game) that need to be up to game speed

- Delpit not ready for the role he has been handed. His lack of communication lends itself to that. Because this combination to that side is football 101. Football IQ and situational awareness are everything.

Those sort of things rightly fall on Woods' shoulders because if your players aren't capable or ready, then you can't deploy them in that way. Wouldn't surprise me to see Delpits role reduced back to where it was last season, the role that Harrison is currently filling a the big nickel and dime backer.

I know you didn't ask and I will get to the late TD bust at some point tonight. Just figured I'd drop this off along the way as well.

Edit: and extra unnecessary... if the back doesn't release flat immediately, Delpit can leverage himself back to the inside of the #1 while Denzel builds his 1/4 integrity with a bit of depth. That would give him the positioning to help double any route which breaks out and allows him to recover underneath should anything present shallow. Thinking like the QB - touchdown to check down.
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I would like to see his eyes through the whole clip, but that hand throw at the end kinda tells me he wasn't in the right place.
 
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AKAK said:
I would like to see his eyes through the whole clip, but that hand throw at the end kinda tells me he wasn't in the right place.
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Correct.

But not only wasn't he in the right place, he failed to have the other players in his coverage triangle in the right places and on the same page. Poor communication might as well be no communication at all.

Seeing this sort of thing is the reason I'm not calling for Woods' head (that day may come) because no coach is going to call this and not teach you your checks out of it.
 
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