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Cleveland Browns (Finally drafting Buckeyes)

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LordJeffBuck said:
Really good thread on the Baker Bro phenomenon from a former football player (Canton McKinley; Ohio University) and current local talk show host.

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A majority of Browns fans are pretty stupid when it comes to football. How many idiots went out and spent money on Manziel, Baker, OBJ, etc. jerseys before they even stepped on the field? I always hoped for the best, but I could give you a bunch of reasons why those moves probably weren't going to work when they made them. Grandma paid for it, but my son has a Garrett jersey. Baker will likely be around for another year, but they need a second option next year at the very least.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
Really good thread on the Baker Bro phenomenon from a former football player (Canton McKinley; Ohio University) and current local talk show host.

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I've made mention, hinted at this mentality. Not so articulately and well thought out. But the whole "Baker is one of us, he gets Cleveland" is a very real and pervasive mindset. I've seen people say they'd rather roll with and support a hurt and underperforming Baker than play Keenum. No joke.

Then again I don't think this phenomenon is limited to Baker nor is he the first.

Edit: and to be clear, Stefanski was no better last night. I refuse to believe a professional coach could be that oblivious to what he's watching unfold on the field. I genuinely believe he sent message last night, my question is - what was it and why?
 
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Buckeneye said:
I've made mention, hinted at this mentality. Not so articulately and well thought out. But the whole "Baker is one of us, he gets Cleveland" is a very real and pervasive mindset. I've seen people say they'd rather roll with and support a hurt and underperforming Baker than play Keenum. No joke.

Then again I don't think this phenomenon is limited to Baker nor is he the first.

Edit: and to be clear, Stefanski was no better last night. I refuse to believe a professional coach could be that oblivious to what he's watching unfold on the field. I genuinely believe he sent message last night, my question is - what was it and why?
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"HELP!!!" I think the why is obvious.
 
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Baker is better than he has played this year, obviously he has been hurt but it's just not working. I still think the Browns should plan to start him next year, and perhaps longer if his performance improves. But it seems to me that Baker doesn't want to stay long-term without the type of top-end contract his performance doesn't quite justify. It is a matter of time now for the Browns to replace Baker, the good part of the situation is they aren't forced to do it right away and could potentially hold onto him a couple more years while exploring ways to replace him.
 
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DZ83CK said:
Baker is better than he has played this year, obviously he has been hurt but it's just not working. I still think the Browns should plan to start him next year, and perhaps longer if his performance improves. But it seems to me that Baker doesn't want to stay long-term without the type of top-end contract his performance doesn't quite justify. It is a matter of time now for the Browns to replace Baker, the good part of the situation is they aren't forced to do it right away and could potentially hold onto him a couple more years while exploring ways to replace him.
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I think next year is it unless his performance drastically improves. If he isn't good enough for a new contract he isn't worth the franchise tag. Keenum was brought in to help Baker learn the offense, but not to be a threat to the job. They need to replace him with someone that has the potential to win the job if Baker doesn't improve. If next year ends up the same as this year I think they need to do whatever it takes to move up in the draft to get a top QB in what will probably be a strong QB class. This year give me a Buckeye WR.
 
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