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"It wasn't that close"
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"It wasn't that close"
The London Browns are falling down, falling down, falling down,
The London Browns are falling down, fuck...these...asshats...
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Worst trade in the history of sports...any sport. Worse than Babe Ruth for a Broadway show, worse than Herschel Walker to the Vikings, worse than Scottie Pippin for Olden Polyniece, worse than aging John Hadl to the Packers, worse than Frank Robinson for Milt Pappas, worse than Lou Brock for Ernie Broglio. Its worse than all of them for how bad he has played, how disinterested and out of shape he has been, for the destruction of whatever team chemistry they had, for destroying a potential playoff run in the short term, for hampering the team from adding meaningful pieces in the intermediate term, for killing the desire for any player to ever come here in FA, for destroying any hope of a rebuild, and now for driving the franchise player to demand a trade because he can't take the burning skin from the dumpster fire anymore. And that doesn't even address the fact that he's a known creeper, and that they knew he was when they mortgaged the next 15 years to trade for his sorry ass.
Worst. Trade. Ever.
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BuckBackHome
Wolverine is largest member of weasel family
Let us not forget the rot starts at the head. The Haslams have to be the worst owners in the history of the NFL. Which is something amazing considering the history just in Cleveland.
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It really is. That trade killed them at the most important position in the game, hamstrung their ability to add meaningful pieces early in the draft, and torpedoed their results on the field aside from one really weird season. Add in that a HUGE portion of the fanbase never wanted any part of him because of all of the sex pest stuff...just a disaster from top-to-bottom. And it's only appropriate that the worst franchise in sports has the worst trade in sports history on it's bumbling résumé.
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billmac91
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I actually don’t think it’s fair to compare Baker in the NFC South to what Baker was in Cleveland.
Beyond the competitiveness of the teams in the NFC South, he gets to play in a dome or great weather 75% of the season.
Cleveland, like Chicago, is hard as fuck to play in. It takes a special talent to deal with the elements come as early as October in the rust belt. I’ve just always had that beef that take what Baker has done in Tampa and try and extrapolate it to if he had stayed in Cleveland.
Until the Browns get an indoor stadium, the blueprint is out for what type of QB they should target (a big fucking dude with a big arm unless they have A+ athletic ability)…..there’s a reason Chicago can never find a QB either (they’re also looking to build an indoor stadium in next 3-4 years like the Haslam’s plan too).
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billmac91
Head Coach
I thank Myles Garrett for going about it this way. In announcing this publicly, he has created a bidding war. Had he gone direct to management and demanded trade, they’d lose some leverage in trying to find a deal.
Now that the entire league is aware, it’s truly an open auction, where he goes to the highest bidder….which is exactly what CLE needs….draft picks.
The other good thing about this, is it should allow CLE the space to avoid taking a QB at #2 trying to “win now” and think they can replicate the Washington Commanders success. They really need to avoid taking a QB and just build the roster out until they get out from Watson’s cap hit….
I’m not even sure why I’m wasting my time on this though, bc as everyone has stated, this franchise is a joke under the Haslam’s.
Now that the entire league is aware, it’s truly an open auction, where he goes to the highest bidder….which is exactly what CLE needs….draft picks.
The other good thing about this, is it should allow CLE the space to avoid taking a QB at #2 trying to “win now” and think they can replicate the Washington Commanders success. They really need to avoid taking a QB and just build the roster out until they get out from Watson’s cap hit….
I’m not even sure why I’m wasting my time on this though, bc as everyone has stated, this franchise is a joke under the Haslam’s.
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I don't think Baker would ever put up numbers like he has in Tampa, but they shouldn't need him to. 2020 Baker was pretty damn solid and there's no reason to think he couldn't be that or even a bit better. That and a strong run game could take them pretty far. Instead, he has a bad year with a bum shoulder the next season and they move on from him to go after a guy who's being swallowed up in controversy and was looking at a long layoff. That turned out predictably poorly.
Could Baker have also flaked out? Sure. But he took them pretty far in 2020 and if they stuck with him, they'd very likely be in a much better place right now and for a lot less money...and with a bunch of draft picks.
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exhawg
Mirror Guy
Thus why the fact that nobody has been fired for the worst trade in NFL history the Watson trade was 100% ownership. If Garrett gets traded they might as well trade every player with value to stock up picks and rebuild the salary cap rollover for the next run. Berry's drafting has been shitty enough they need someone else doing the picking. Haslam needs to bite the bullet and build the new dome on his own and hope they can build a winning team to be ready when it opens.
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Rough coming to grips with the VERY distinct possibility I will never see a Browns Super Bowl in my lifetime... that sucks
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Steel yourself, because it will never happen. The only hope is that by some miracle Haslam decides he's bored with losing and being a car crash of an owner and sells to an owner that actually knows what it takes to build a winning organization and culture.
This outfit is rotten from the head down.
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The Clowns first 20 or so years of existence was littered with terrible teams that completely lacked star players (aside from Joe Thomas). Think about it - who from 1999-2017(ish) would you say was a star on this team for more than one flash in the pan season? They whiffed on countless top 5/top 10 picks, made horrible FA signings, and could not find stars lower in the draft. Since about 2017 they've added cornerstone pieces like Myles, Denzel, and Chubb. Throw Bitonio in there, too. That's 4 elite players that they utterly failed to build around. Now Myles wants out, and they pissed away Chubb's and Bitonio's primes. How long until Denzel says he's had enough? They failed with almost 20 years of scrubs and now have failed with a pretty elite core of players. They really are the gold standard of failure.
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