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Cleveland Browns (2017 Thread of Chlamydia)

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NFBuck said:
They have to get rid of Hue. Just a stunning failure top-to-bottom.

I know I said when he was hired they had to break the cycle of changing coaches constantly, but that was on the assumption that they would show SOME improvement in year two. Unbelievably, they are worse than the 1-15 shart shake from last year. In fact, if they lose this game, he should be gone tomorrow. 1-23 is too much.
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Can you necessarily blame the guy though? The front office stripped down the roster and aside from a couple of decent players and contributors here and there, the ownership and management have saddled the coaching staff with almost pure horseshit in terms of premium talent.

Coleman, Ogbah, Peppers, Njoku, Garrett & Kizer.
Of those 6 only two have shown flashes of potential and the third is only a regular contributor but nothing game changing.

Like @LordJeffBuck said- the BP draft had the Brownies taking Wentz, Michael Thomas, Garrett and Hooker. The first of those being a front runner for NFL MVP. Coaching means nothing without talent.
 
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Buckeneye said:
Can you necessarily blame the guy though? The front office stripped down the roster and aside from a couple of decent players and contributors here and there, the ownership and management have saddled the coaching staff with almost pure horse[Mark May] in terms of premium talent.

Coleman, Ogbah, Peppers, Njoku, Garrett & Kizer.
Of those 6 only two have shown flashes of potential and the third is only a regular contributor but nothing game changing.

Like @LordJeffBuck said- the BP draft had the Brownies taking Wentz, Michael Thomas, Garrett and Hooker. The first of those being a front runner for NFL MVP. Coaching means nothing without talent.
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I agree with almost everything that you stated but you like Hue way too much. He did say "trust me" when he drafted Kessler and he has pulled the trigger on the QB's way too much this season for my liking. I just do not think he has a very good HC and has made numerous bad decisions with play calling and game management both last season and this season.
 
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Buckeneye said:
Can you necessarily blame the guy though? The front office stripped down the roster and aside from a couple of decent players and contributors here and there, the ownership and management have saddled the coaching staff with almost pure horse[Mark May] in terms of premium talent.

Coleman, Ogbah, Peppers, Njoku, Garrett & Kizer.
Of those 6 only two have shown flashes of potential and the third is only a regular contributor but nothing game changing.

Like @LordJeffBuck said- the BP draft had the Brownies taking Wentz, Michael Thomas, Garrett and Hooker. The first of those being a front runner for NFL MVP. Coaching means nothing without talent.
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It's not entirely his fault. Not even close, but his handling of the QBs and offense as a whole is a fireable offense, IMO.

Bottom line, the guy is 1-23 and there are no signs of improvement. That's too much.
 
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Need an NFL experienced head coach to get the team on the right track. Probably won’t be the guy long term, but someone to get the locker room right and get the experienced players to lead the team. Get a veteran QB who can run the team for a year or so to give someone like Keizer some time to mature. Get a running back (yeah Barkley). Build a monster defense.
 
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buckeyebri said:
You really think he’s the answer? I don’t think there is enough book on him. As far as we know he is the next coming of Brock O. For NE to let him go with no backup for Brady really has to make you wonder.
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You'd rather have Jimmy G than Kizer, right? That's all that matters.

Pats didn't want to spend $50 million on QBs the next few years, that's why this happened.
 
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