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Cleveland Browns (2013 Season)

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so now we need to take a CB, S, LB, OL, TE, QB...i hope we dont take 4 more DL...i think we have now addressed that spot...i dont give a shit who we take at those spots of need, i just hope they are good
 
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LitlBuck;2332268; said:
Sorry I am so late to the party. Unlike the majority of you guys, I am fine with the pick. I think most of you guys would have bitched about any player that the Browns drafted except maybe for Milliner and from what I heard last night he has had about 3-4 surgeries. Talk about taking a shot in the dark. We shall see how Mingo turns out. If he puts on 10-15 pounds, he will be a very good OLB.

Hopefully, the Browns will get some help for the defensive backfield tonight be it a safety or CB. Even a OG will be all right with me.

Next year I must remind myself not to read anything from the so-called experts who have their sources about what teams are going to take what players. Kiper and Gruden were just terrible last night with their predictions and then there fast turnarounds saying oh that is exactly what x team needed. They could we be replaced by kindergartners.
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I'll take the Chris Grant approach until they make a move that is obviously stupid (i.e. trading up for Geno today). The first round could have been a lot worse so I'm not going to fault them for drafting a guy that they thought was the BPA at a position where they feel there is great need. It sounds like Chud thinks a great pass rush trumps great pass defense so we'll see what Horton has in store. Assuming Sheard is still part of the team after tonight I'd look for some passing down lineups with him, Kruger, and Mingo all on the field.
 
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exhawg;2332280; said:
I'll take the Chris Grant approach until they make a move that is obviously stupid (i.e. trading up for Geno today). The first round could have been a lot worse so I'm not going to fault them for drafting a guy that they thought was the BPA at a position where they feel there is great need. It sounds like Chud thinks a great pass rush trumps great pass defense so we'll see what Horton has in store. Assuming Sheard is still part of the team after tonight I'd look for some passing down lineups with him, Kruger, and Mingo all on the field.
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I can't see a scenario where Sheard stays...he isn't really a 3-4 DE, and with Kruger on one side, there is no reason to keep the guy after burning the #6 on the other side. I actually like Sheard and wish we had a spot for him, but I don't think he fits here anymore and is much more suited for a 4-3 somewhere.
 
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LitlBuck;2332268; said:
Sorry I am so late to the party. Unlike the majority of you guys, I am fine with the pick. I think most of you guys would have bitched about any player that the Browns drafted except maybe for Milliner and from what I heard last night he has had about 3-4 surgeries. Talk about taking a shot in the dark. We shall see how Mingo turns out. If he puts on 10-15 pounds, he will be a very good OLB.

Hopefully, the Browns will get some help for the defensive backfield tonight be it a safety or CB. Even a OG will be all right with me.
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Really I am in your boat. As I was telling my wife right before they announced it, I was expecting them to screw it up. While Mingo wasn't a homerun, there wasn't a homerun out there. This draft was bad at the top. And while trading down was the right move, I have a feeling that was thrown out the window when Philly took the 3rd OL at #4.

So I was fully expecting them to go Geno Smith or the CB (I didn't like him) or they could have done worse... thank god Detroit took that guy from BYU because he had bust written all over him.

When they took Mingo... while I wasn't satisfied, I wasn't horrified of the possibility. Can he be a bust? Yep... anyone we would have taken could have been... would have been since the Browns took them. But Mingo at least has a chance.

Now the Browns need to load up on DBs, take a OG and TE and I can call that an 'ok' draft. (which is better than I was expecting out of this draft from us)
 
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Bucklion;2332283; said:
I can't see a scenario where Sheard stays...he isn't really a 3-4 DE, and with Kruger on one side, there is no reason to keep the guy after burning the #6 on the other side. I actually like Sheard and wish we had a spot for him, but I don't think he fits here anymore and is much more suited for a 4-3 somewhere.
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how exactly is sheard not a 3-4 DE? his scouting reports coming out of college said that he could project to either a 4-3 or 3-4.
 
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Bucklion said:
I can't see a scenario where Sheard stays...he isn't really a 3-4 DE, and with Kruger on one side, there is no reason to keep the guy after burning the #6 on the other side. I actually like Sheard and wish we had a spot for him, but I don't think he fits here anymore and is much more suited for a 4-3 somewhere.
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If the Cowboys and any picks, they might want him since they are moving to a 4-3 but I do not think they have anything that we want except for draft picks and I do not think they have many left high on the board.
 
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tsteele316;2332295; said:
how exactly is sheard not a 3-4 DE? his scouting reports coming out of college said that he could project to either a 4-3 or 3-4.
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Didn't say he couldn't or wasn't an OLB, I said he was more suited for a 4-3 DE and now we have a first round pick and a high $$$ free agent playing his 2 spots, so he doesn't fit here.
 
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tsteele316;2332302; said:
i meant 3-4 OLB. his combine stats and performances show he's plenty athletic enough.
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I agree. The only way I would move Sheard is in the first half of the 2nd round. Nobody knows if Mingo will be ready next year so it would be safe to have both and then look to move Sheard after the season.

I think Sheard is the reason most of us wanted a CB in the first round.
 
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tsteele316 said:
i meant 3-4 OLB. his combine stats and performances show he's plenty athletic enough.
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I do not know how much great difference it makes or how big a change it is but he is also moving from the left side to the right side and everyone seems to be making a big deal out of that. I did not realize that there was such a big adjustment from one side to the othe especially on defense.
 
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