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Cleveland Browns (2013 Season)

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NastyNatiBuck;2329885; said:
Jimmy could very easily surpass Art Modell as the most hated Browns owner of all time, in under one year. Think about that...
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The only way that could happen is if Jimmy tried to sell the Browns to someone that was going to move them and I don't see the NFL letting that happen again.

Except for Lombardi I think it would be hard to argue that the Browns are in a worse spot right now than they were a year ago.
 
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Scenario to ponder:
Haslam is convicted of fraud or whatever in February of 2014 and the NFL forces him to sell the team...the browns had a great draft and good season, making the playoffs at 10-6...so does this new owner just come in and blow up everything again? It would make sense if he did...easy answer to my scenario is, that will never happen...browns won't make the playoffs...I think its possible they could...we were a few plays away from having 3-4 more wins...so I'm hoping the new reports that the NFL is going to let the judicial system take it's course before acting are true...haslam also is providing a statement at 4 pm today also
 
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y0yoyoin;2330028; said:
Scenario to ponder:
Haslam is convicted of fraud or whatever in February of 2014 and the NFL forces him to sell the team...the browns had a great draft and good season, making the playoffs at 10-6...so does this new owner just come in and blow up everything again? It would make sense if he did...easy answer to my scenario is, that will never happen...browns won't make the playoffs...I think its possible they could...we were a few plays away from having 3-4 more wins...so I'm hoping the new reports that the NFL is going to let the judicial system take it's course before acting are true...haslam also is providing a statement at 4 pm today also
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My guess is they make him stay away from the team until this gets settled. If he is found guilty they make him start the process to sell, which would likely finish 2-3 years down the line.

No doubt Goodell and the owners already have a list of people interested in owning an NFL team.
 
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exhawg said:
My guess is they make him stay away from the team until this gets settled. If he is found guilty they make him start the process to sell, which would likely finish 2-3 years down the line.

No doubt Goodell and the owners already have a list of people interested in owning an NFL team.
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it would be like when DeBartolo was convicted of whatever. He had to turn the operation over to his daughter who had no previous affiliation with the 49ers. Haslam would probably have to do the same. Banner runs the operations day-to-day so they would just need someone to write the checks. Youdo not want old Jimmy close to the cash register right now.

Goodell and the owners sure did their due diligence when examining Haslam's financial records and doing a background on hand man his business.

I do not care what Haslam says he has really made the Browns organization look very bad and I just wonder how the players will view him.
 
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LitlBuck;2330043; said:
it would be like when DeBartolo was convicted of whatever. He had to turn the operation over to his daughter who had no previous affiliation with the 49ers.
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IIRC, he failed to report extortion. Sounds like Jimmah's misdeeds run a little deeper...allegedly.

I do not care what Haslam says he has really made the Browns organization look very bad...
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Eh, they do a good enough job doing that on their own. They've been a laughing stock for almost 15 years, this is just the latest gag. :lol: I stopped expecting anything different from this regime the moment Lombardi was hired.
 
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NFBuck;2330048; said:
IIRC, he failed to report extortion. Sounds like Jimmah's misdeeds run a little deeper...allegedly.
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your recollection is pretty good
Former NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue suspended former San Francisco 49ers owner Eddie DeBartolo Jr. for the 1999 season after DeBartolo pled to failing to report an alleged extortion plot involving the licensing of a Louisiana riverboat casino.

DeBartolo also was fined $1 million by the league. He eventually ceded control of the franchise to his sister, Denise DeBartolo York.
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Eh, they do a good enough job doing that on their own. They've been a laughing stock for almost 15 years, this is just the latest gag. :lol: I stopped expecting anything different from this regime the moment Lombardi was hired.
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The Lombardi hiring is one thing but to have an owner who might be going to prison is a totally different type of tarnishing. Lombardi might not know football but Haslam has actually cheated people.
Federal allegations of fraud made against Jimmy Haslam?s Pilot Flying J company may imperil his operational control of the Cleveland Browns, according to a source with knowledge of both the legal system and the inner workings of the NFL.

?This is worse than a dark cloud. This is a funnel cloud,? said the source.

Haslam was inside the Browns? facility to sit in on draft meetings on Thursday when details of an alleged fraud scheme that enriched his family?s company were revealed in unsealed documents filed in U.S. District Court in Knoxville, TN.

The 120-page affidavit, as first reported by The Plain Dealer, summed up a two-year investigation of Haslam?s truck stop and travel center company by the FBI and IRS. The documents, which were used to obtain search and seizure warrants served Monday at company headquarters, charge that Haslam knew company sales executives withheld millions of dollars of rebates owed trucking companies that purchased gas in large volumes from Pilot Flying J.
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more at http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=17&post_id=16501
 
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NFBuck;2329839; said:
Am I the only one that finds this genuinely funny ?:slappy:
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I have found this whole scenario hilarious... of course I am biased. I don't like Haslem at all... and it's because of Flying J/Pilot. Cuz my wife works for TravelCenters of America... which is based in Westlake and considers itself the largest truck stop company (gotta love semantics)

Always joked with my wife they should pony up the money to pay for the Stadium naming rights just for the humor in it :biggrin:

The worst part is I blame Goodell... he served Haslem up on a plate to Lerner and to later find out he is a crook?!?!? And from what I have heard... Haslem is going to jail, the FBI doesn't spend 2 years investigating your company and then make a big show of serving a warrant at the HQ without knowing they are going to nail these guys to the wall. They have 2 whistleblowers and tape recordings... yep... this is all over.

I can totally see the sale being voided and we get Lerner back... OIC
 
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