Cleveland Browns (2013 Season)

[tsteele316]

Pretty sure the last 14 years show that we suck at drafting players. I honestly don't see a change in the future either. If you see/know something otherwise, please share

they have one draft pick to hang their hats on at the moment, and it looks promising for mingo, despite a lot of hand wringing on here about drafting him. so, i see no usefulness in whining and lamenting this trade on the premise that they will simply botch the draft picks like previous regimes. so, i'll just say that they got good value in the trade and wait and see what happens with the picks. if this eliminates me from being able to crow "i told you so" so be it.

 

[NFBuck]

I love when people talk down to cleveland fans saying they're "overly negative" and "bitch about everything"...as if that's unreasonable going on 15 years of abject failure.

 

[cincibuck]

Um, if there's one thing he's proven, it's that he's not anything close to a QB. Did you see him this preseason? And how can he "play football"? The only thing resembling success he had in the NFL was with a team that had a very good OL, a strong running game, receivers, and defense. Even then, they were terrible once the league figured out how to defend the gimmick. He's a gimmick, and not a good one at that. You know what, fuck it, bring him in for the lolz.

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Just for shits and grins here, Nfl crowds are from a different socioeconomic strata than college crowds. Tebow's evangelical beliefs probably would add interest to the browns crowd.

 

[Mac]

they have one draft pick to hang their hats on at the moment, and it looks promising for mingo, despite a lot of hand wringing on here about drafting him. so, i see no usefulness in whining and lamenting this trade on the premise that they will simply botch the draft picks like previous regimes. so, i'll just say that they got good value in the trade and wait and see what happens with the picks. if this eliminates me from being able to crow "i told you so" so be it.

It was promising under Holmgren, it was promising with Quinn, McCoy, Winslow, Bentley, and the list goes on and on. I wouldn't say Mingo looks promising, its been 1 game! Better phrases would be, hope he doesn't get hurt, wrecks his bike, or gets hit with a flag in the left eye.

 

[Mike80]

It was promising under Holmgren, it was promising with Quinn, McCoy, Winslow, Bentley, and the list goes on and on. I wouldn't say Mingo looks promising, its been 1 game! Better phrases would be, hope he doesn't get hurt, wrecks his bike, or gets hit with a flag in the left eye.

gets hit with a beer bottle......develops a staph infection....throws his helmet before the play is over....

 

[NFBuck]

gets hit with a beer bottle......develops a staph infection....throws his helmet before the play is over....

Which, oddly enough, was the precursor to their only playoff season in this 15 year snuff film. Maybe they need more of those.

 

[BigWoof31]

The next Browns home game is in Week 4 against Cincinnati.
If things go south (and they probably will) the booing and chants is going to be can't miss TV

 

[tsteele316]

It was promising under Holmgren, it was promising with Quinn, McCoy, Winslow, Bentley, and the list goes on and on. I wouldn't say Mingo looks promising, its been 1 game! Better phrases would be, hope he doesn't get hurt, wrecks his bike, or gets hit with a flag in the left eye.

brady quinn was never promising and lecharles bentley never played one down for cleveland. not holding the idiocy of butch davis and phil savage against mike holmgren doesn't make anything promising. it means he gets to be judged on his own work, not the failures of those before him. nothing more.

 

[Mac]

gets hit with a beer bottle......develops a staph infection....throws his helmet before the play is over....

We can also add driving issues, drug issues, and they just suck to the list too.

I almost said "order weed and having delivered to your house in your dogs name" but then I remembered that was the Indians Perez.

I guess it's a Cleveland thing

 

[Bucklion]

we already had a [Mark May] ton of cap space... now we have even more to spend on [Mark May] free agents to hit the cap floor... outstanding...

Well, my hope is that they pick one area, target that with FA, and the go draft the rest. Somewhat similarly to what they did with Kruger, Groves, etc. on defense this year. Pick, maybe, the OL or the secondary, bring guys in, maybe one big $ guy and a couple of mid-range contributors (again, like the LBs), and then draft the rest. FA $ will be better spent if they overhaul a single area than if they start stoinking at a target in several different areas and hope that something sticks. JMO.

 

[Mac]

brady quinn was never promising and lecharles bentley never played one down for cleveland. not holding the idiocy of butch davis and phil savage against mike holmgren doesn't make anything promising. it means he gets to be judged on his own work, not the failures of those before him. nothing more.

Oh come one, if you weren't excite to have LeCharles you aren't a fan. That was the first time the Browns sniffed a good lineman since coming back. Yeah he played one play in practice, but that doesn't mean people weren't excited about him. And Quinn, believe it or not was a good QB in college. A lot of people thought he was the real deal.

So I guess we should judge Haslam, and the scandal? If it's not one thing, it's another with Cleveland teams.

You may be optimistic, but I've had enough of being out through the ringer every 3 years. I'm just being realistic

 

[tsteele316]

Oh come one, if you weren't excite to have LeCharles you aren't a fan. That was the first time the Browns sniffed a good lineman since coming back. Yeah he played one play in practice, but that doesn't mean people weren't excited about him. And Quinn, believe it or not was a good QB in college. A lot of people thought he was the real deal.

So I guess we should judge Haslam, and the scandal? If it's not one thing, it's another with Cleveland teams.

You may be optimistic, but I've had enough of being out through the ringer every 3 years. I'm just being realistic

showing promise on the field means you have to make it on the field. bentley never did. quinn was a good college qb. so was kellen moore and case keenum. none of them showed anything close to promise on an nfl field. i never said i was optimistic, simply that i don't subscribe to the logic of holding the sins of past regimes against the current one based on the premise of "woe is me, this is cleveland". it's not worth the energy.

at the end of the day, cleveland got a 1st round pick for a rb, a rb averaging 3.4 ypc, has one run of over 20 yards in 300+carries, and is rated as one of the worst pass blockers in the nfl. that's a good deal.

 

[ArmyVet83]

showing promise on the field means you have to make it on the field. bentley never did. quinn was a good college qb. so was kellen moore and case keenum. none of them showed anything close to promise on an nfl field. i never said i was optimistic, simply that i don't subscribe to the logic of holding the sins of past regimes against the current one based on the premise of "woe is me, this is cleveland". it's not worth the energy.

at the end of the day, cleveland got a 1st round pick for a rb, a rb averaging 3.4 ypc, has one run of over 20 yards in 300+carries, and is rated as one of the worst pass blockers in the nfl. that's a good deal.

I thought you like what they did to trade up and get Richardson?

 

[tsteele316]

I thought you like what they did to trade up and get Richardson?

i did at the time as i had no interest in claiborne or blackmon. blackmon is one puff from a year long hiatus and claiborne just got benched in dallas. should i feign some sort of outrage over trading a guy that was underperforming and getting very good value in return because i liked the draft pick 18 months ago?

 

[Bleed S & G]

Brady Quinn promising?