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Cleveland Browns (2012 season)

NFBuck;2278130; said:
Strohs nails it. Saban's a mercenary, and he's accomplished all he needs at bammer (especially if they win again this year). That little failed stint in the NFL has to be eating at him. Especially watching Harbaugh, Carroll, and Schiano succeed.
There's also the matter of Drew Brees' success since joining the Saints. Saban wanted Brees, and the Dolphins front office gave him Daunte Culpepper. Regardless of whether he comes to the Browns or not, I think that Saban will jump to the NFL next season, and will be successful.
 
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I"ll pass on Saban. Although at least with him at coach the run game wouldn't take such a back-seat.

I see a groundswell of support for Heckert being retained, especially from the players as evidenced from statements by Thomas & D'qwell.

If Haslam really does allow Banner to make the change to Lombardi and get rid of Heckert - then it might be time to become a 100% Niners' fan.
If Haslam does make a coaching change, I would not be shocked to see Saban be offered the coaching job just due to Haslam's love for the SEC. I know it doesn't make any sense but he loves SEC football because of his beloved Vols .

With regard to Heckert, he wants full control over the 53 man roster and Banner has stated that the HC will have control over the roster. I think if Heckert is allowed to maintain control he would stay otherwise I think he would walk. I do not Lombardi either. That would be a huge mistake.
 
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This is the perfect example of why you never try to convince yourself someone can 'be' your franchise QB. In this case - Weeden.

The front office (Holmgren) thought they'd create magic with an older QB.

Luck & RG3 we're the clear choices. Beyond that was a total risk.
 
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Big Mike (the jackass) could have waited until the 3rd round had taken Cousins who is a much better athletes than Weeden and from what I have seen today a more accurate passer. Big Mike might prove me wrong but I think he put this franchise back a couple years by demanding that we take BW.

The game today also makes me wonder about Shurmur and Childress with all of those two TE sets. That absolutely gave no room for Richardson to run and eliminated almost any downfield throws. I just knew the Kansas City game was too good to be true.
 
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To me it seems like the Saban to the Browns rumors are probably coming from the same people that came up with Gruden getting an ownership stake in the Browns to coach the Vols. A bunch of Vol homers that think Haslam's goal in life is to bring the Vols back to the top of the SEC.

Saban could always jump to the NFL now and if it doesn't work out in a few years take over Arky or Auburn. Personally I think he's a good enough coach to win at any level. I just want whoever the Browns bring in to stick with the scheme they are currently built to run, but they'll probably hire a 3-4 guy who wants a mobile QB.
 
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The worst part is the only time we try perimeter runs, stretch plays
Or a pitch with Trent is in the redzone.

Hardesty is purely run out of the singleback. Alex Smith
Is doing an admirable job at fullback but we have no true
Road grader.

Fuck it. Bring in Saban. Keep Heckert. Can't be worse than shurmur
 
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Buckeneye;2278378; said:
The worst part is the only time we try perimeter runs, stretch plays
Or a pitch with Trent is in the redzone.

Hardesty is purely run out of the singleback. Alex Smith
Is doing an admirable job at fullback but we have no true
Road grader.

Fuck it. Bring in Saban. Keep Heckert. Can't be worse than shurmur

Saban has said the only way he comes to the NFL is if Lombardi is the GM. If he sticks with that remains to be seen, however.
 
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Saban has said the only way he comes to the NFL is if Lombardi is the GM. If he sticks with that remains to be seen, however.
Everyone's favorite Tony Grossi has stated that he does not think that Lombardi will come to Cleveland and Grossi and Lombardi are pretty tight from when Lombardi used to be in Cleveland. Also, I forgot to mention that Saban is currently building a new house in Alabama per Grossi.
 
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Fine with me. Lombardi is the last person I want to see around this franchise. So long as McDaniels isn't offered the HC job, not sure how our coaching staff can get any worse.

I believe this is in all seriousness - take some of us on this board putting our collective heads together, could come up with a better scheme then what was shown today. It was THAT bad.
 
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LitlBuck;2278385; said:
Everyone's favorite Tony Grossi has stated that he does not think that Lombardi will come to Cleveland and Grossi and Lombardi are pretty tight from when Lombardi used to be in Cleveland. Also, I forgot to mention that Saban is currently building a new house in Alabama per Grossi.

I'm not sure I'd call Grossi and Lombardi "tight." Grossi has been all over WKNR telling anyone who would listen that Lombardi would set the franchise back light years with his arrogance and undermining. Grossi also has said that Saban would keep Lombardi in check, but that Saban would be gone in a few years and that's when Lombardi would do his damage.

I think we all need to face the fact that this franchise will never be able to field a winner. There is a black cloud over Cleveland sports that doesn't seem to want to be lifted.

Maybe we need a live chicken?
 
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