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Cleveland Browns (2012 season)

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Bucks21;2120653; said:
Both will command more money than the Browns are willing to spend at this point.
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I'm guessing they couldn't get Williams unless they were the highest bidder by a substantial margin. I really hope they don't go the Flynn route. He'd surely be an upgrade from McCoy but the question is how much. I see Flynn as having the upside of being an average starter and McCoy a replacement level starter. In my opinion they need to do what they can (within reason) to get Griffin. Two first rounders is not a big price to pay for a potential franchise QB (especially considering the franchise hasn't had one in ages).
 
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Bucks21;2120653; said:
Both will command more money than the Browns are willing to spend at this point.
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If that's the case, then dumbass fans need to be boycotting the franchise. They sell out every game, sell tons of merchandise, and have done jack-shot for 13 years. I'd say the clowns owe it to the fans to spend some fucking money to finally put a product worth supporting on the field.
 
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Bucks21;2120653; said:
Both will command more money than the Browns are willing to spend at this point.
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Is Mike Fucking Brown running this shitshow? Fuck that, if the Browns don't want to spend the money to make this team better, the fans shouldn't spend to see it.

NFBuck;2120915; said:
If that's the case, then dumbass fans need to be boycotting the franchise. They sell out every game, sell tons of merchandise, and have done jack-shot for 13 years. I'd say the clowns owe it to the fans to spend some fucking money to finally put a product worth supporting on the field.
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This. Exactly.
 
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BuckeyeMike80;2120953; said:
This. Exactly.
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I've essentially been boycotting them since 2009. I used to make an effort to get to at least one clowns game a year, but stopped even trying after 2008. I haven't bought a stitch of merchandise since then, and I make no real effort to watch them on television, mostly just follow online. If I'm home and they're on, I'll watch if 'Seinfeld' reruns aren't on. If the weather is nice, [censored] it, I'm going out and enjoying it, not wasting it watching a third-rate football team. I invested 10 seasons getting wrapped up in their nonsense before tapping out. I'll continue to do this until I see them making a real effort to improve. I wish more would follow.
 
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im all for the browns spending money on the right players...if it takes all of our cap space to acquire matt flynn for this year, and they believe he is the guy, then fine...this isnt the MLB where you just aimlessly blow millions of dollars on players for the fuck of it...theres strategy involved and Heckert said last year they were not spending alot of money on Free Agents that year...so im holding him to his word this year...they've said they will sign a WR for sure...im assuming they are holding off on players such as Williams at this point because we have to get a QB and we may be resigning Hillis...something to keep in mind before anyone gets pissed off because we didnt sign Mario Williams
 
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Browns GM talks draft, free agency

BEREA, Ohio -- Cleveland Browns general manager Tom Heckert acknowledged Thursday that he has had talks with the St. Louis Rams about the No. 2 overall pick, but he wouldn't classify them as "serious."
He was asked if the Browns would be willing to give up both their first-round picks to go higher.
"I'd never say never about anything," said Heckert, who plans to attend Robert Griffin III's pro day workout on March 21.
Heckert met informally Thursday with reporters for the first time since undergoing heart surgery last month. A few pounds lighter, he recently returned to the office after recovering at home and missing the scouting combine in Indianapolis, where the Browns snared an up-close look at Griffin, Baylor's talented Heisman Trophy winner.

With the No. 4 overall pick, the Browns may have a chance to select Griffin, considered the best QB prospect in this year's draft behind Stanford's Andrew Luck, who is expected to be taken first by the Colts. But with Griffin's stock soaring and several teams desperate for a franchise quarterback, Cleveland, which also owns the No. 22 pick, likely would have to trade up to get St. Louis' pick at No. 2 -- if they want Griffin.
It's possible the Browns could wind up in a bidding war with several teams for a shot at Griffin. Heckert treasures draft picks and might be unwilling to part with any of Cleveland's selections. But the price might be worth it if the Browns, who have three of the top 37 picks, feel Griffin can reshape a franchise that has just one playoff appearance since 1999 and was the only AFC North team not in the playoffs last season.
Heckert called all the speculation about a possible trade with St. Louis preliminary and labeled media reports as "crazy." He also said it's possible the Browns might hold onto their first pick.
"We feel very comfortable staying at four and getting a good player there, and that could happen," he said. "And we feel comfortable in moving down and getting more picks, we really do. It's way early to start talking about this stuff."
Heckert said the Browns believe there are four quality quarterbacks in this year's draft class. In addition to Luck and Griffin, Heckert mentioned Texas A&M's Ryan Tannehill "untapped" and Oklahoma State's Brandon Weeden "super smart" during his 30-minute interview session. Heckert said he's eager to see the 28-year-old Weeden throw at his pro day on Friday.
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Heckert said the Browns won't join the Peyton Manning chase.
"Not really," Heckert said when asked if Manning was on the club's radar. "He's obviously a great player and all that, but where we're at and where he's at ... To be honest, we have not talked to him or anything. No, that's probably not a direction we're going in." Heckert's stance would seem to also rule out the Browns making a run at Green Bay quarterback Matt Flynn.
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Heckert reiterated the Browns are open to re-signing running back Peyton Hillis, who had a drama- and injury-filled second season in Cleveland. Hillis, who rushed for 1,177 yards in 2010, recently changed agents again and will be an unrestricted free agent.
"If we can work things out, he'd like be here," Heckert said. "And if we can do it, we'd like him to be here. Whether he has to wait till he sees what happens in free agency, that's fine with us. We're willing to do that. We'll just have to wait and see how things go."
On other Browns issues, Heckert said:
? The team has not had any contact with linebacker Scott Fujita, who played for New Orleans from 2006-09 and is reportedly entangled in the Saints' "bounty" scandal.
? He would like to sign veteran kicker Phil Dawson to a long-term contract. The Browns placed their franchise tag last week on Dawson, who has been with Cleveland since 1999 and his coming off one of his finest seasons.
? The Browns want to retain free safety Mike Adams and cornerback Dimitri Patterson. Both are scheduled to become unrestricted free agents.
? Right tackle Tony Pashos underwent ankle surgery on Tuesday. Pashos was slowed by an injury to his ankle most of last season.
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Spending money on what?? No one can accuse this franchise of not spending money...it just so happens that what they spent it on yielded ZERO. Right now they have the right plan and right direction... look what we have done in the last couple of drafts. Need to stay the course instead of caving to fans that can't hold their wad.
 
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y0yoyoin;2121968; said:
getting FA's would be alot easier if this were the 1960's and Cleveland's climate was similar to Los Angeles as well
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No doubt. I think if they had the will to do it though that they could pull in guys better than Bobby Engram and Hank Poteat on a year-to-year basis.
 
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Given that, if we stay at 4 I want that corner, as the Vikes will take the tackle. Blackmon may be a good player, but I would rather have 2 shutdown corners, grab a WR as our only big FA, and then pair him with Little and Cribbs in the slot.
 
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