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Cleveland Browns (2010 season)

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If you recall, Adams was moved to corner at the end of last season, and replaced at safety by Mike Furry (SP?). I couldn't recall the last time I saw a #87 playing safety in the NFL. That should give you some idea, how bad our DBs were last year.

We also have, DeAnglo Smith on the practice squad as a back up CB if needed, along with Asante as a back up safety. I also think this 11 linebacker situation stands up about as long as my swantz. I expect at least 2 more to be released.
 
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Watching some of these moves I have to wonder if Holmgren is setting Mangini up so Holmgren can come in and coach next season.

Too bad about hardesty, who would have ever thought a guy with a ton of leg injuries would end up hurting his leg with the Browns? Its just a curse I guess. Hope the guy gets better and comes in next season ready to rock.

Here is to hoping Hillis comes in and freight trains people, really like that guy.
 
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hatehineygate;1763554; said:
Watching some of these moves I have to wonder if Holmgren is setting Mangini up so Holmgren can come in and coach next season.

Too bad about hardesty, who would have ever thought a guy with a ton of leg injuries would end up hurting his leg with the Browns? Its just a curse I guess. Hope the guy gets better and comes in next season ready to rock.

Here is to hoping Hillis comes in and freight trains people, really like that guy.
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of the 3 paragraphs here, only one makes real sense.

first, exactly what moves did holmgren make (and by holmgren, I assume you mean Heckert, who controls the 53 man roster with input from Mangini) to set up Mangini to fail?

Hardesty injured the other leg from what he suffered in college. Hardly anything more than coincidence.

Hillis is a steamroller and will get ample carries, especially if Harrison continues to run like a pussy.
 
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tsteele316;1763573; said:
of the 3 paragraphs here, only one makes real sense.

first, exactly what moves did holmgren make (and by holmgren, I assume you mean Heckert, who controls the 53 man roster with input from Mangini) to set up Mangini to fail?

Hardesty injured the other leg from what he suffered in college. Hardly anything more than coincidence.

Hillis is a steamroller and will get ample carries, especially if Harrison continues to run like a pussy.
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Heckert takes his notes by Holmgren's office, I think there have been more than enough moves made already that made no sense at all. Wasnt Colt McCoy Holmgren's hand picked guy? More seahawks players showing up?

I hate the fact that we are a cursed franchise, if its not massive injuries it is staph.

Hillis is a beast and more than willing to block. Hope we see this guy
 
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hatehineygate;1763594; said:
Heckert takes his notes by Holmgren's office, I think there have been more than enough moves made already that made no sense at all. Wasnt Colt McCoy Holmgren's hand picked guy? More seahawks players showing up?

I hate the fact that we are a cursed franchise, if its not massive injuries it is staph.

Hillis is a beast and more than willing to block. Hope we see this guy
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well stated:lol:

When was the last time there was any staph... give it a rest.

Just because you're still stuck on your boy from Notre Dame says nothing about McCoy.
 
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hatehineygate;1763594; said:
Heckert takes his notes by Holmgren's office, I think there have been more than enough moves made already that made no sense at all. Wasnt Colt McCoy Holmgren's hand picked guy? More seahawks players showing up?

I hate the fact that we are a cursed franchise, if its not massive injuries it is staph.

Hillis is a beast and more than willing to block. Hope we see this guy
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1. do you have any examples of these nonsensical moves, or are you just tossing out another general statement with no backing?

2. cleveland was set to take Corey Peters at 85. He got picked a few picks before hand. They couldn't agree on who to take, so Holmgren stepped in.

3. really, how many seahawks are on the roster? They have a backup qb, and a waiver wire transaction. Cleveland has acquired just as many guys from Philly. This argument is also a non-starter.

4. cleveland has fewer injuries at this time of the year than they've had in ages. When was the last staph infection of any note? JJ?
 
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tsteele316;1763621; said:
1. do you have any examples of these nonsensical moves, or are you just tossing out another general statement with no backing?

2. cleveland was set to take Corey Peters at 85. He got picked a few picks before hand. They couldn't agree on who to take, so Holmgren stepped in.

3. really, how many seahawks are on the roster? They have a backup qb, and a waiver wire transaction. Cleveland has acquired just as many guys from Philly. This argument is also a non-starter.

4. cleveland has fewer injuries at this time of the year than they've had in ages. When was the last staph infection of any note? JJ?
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Look, we are an injury cursed franchise, I dont know how anyone else can claim any differently. Seriously, what are the odds that we take a guy with some promise, who has some injury history with the knee and he blows his knee apart right before the year?

And for the other guy, this has nothing to do with Clausen, I would have loved to have seen Wootton picked with the pick we traded to move up.
 
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There goes another piece of the "foundation" picks Mangini was praised for. Too bad, the guy tried hard and was willing to do anything for the team. Sucks when you see guys like that not make it. The kid out of Utah this year was a guy I really liked, Koa or something like that. Pretty much a better all around version of Veikune, would have been a monster on the edge for us. Probably would have taken a year or two, but would have been worth it.

Anyway, who is the next one to go? Anyone got any feelings one way or another?
 
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hatehineygate;1763653; said:
Look, we are an injury cursed franchise, I dont know how anyone else can claim any differently. Seriously, what are the odds that we take a guy with some promise, who has some injury history with the knee and he blows his knee apart right before the year?

And for the other guy, this has nothing to do with Clausen, I would have loved to have seen Wootton picked with the pick we traded to move up.
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You did not answer any of my questions. not surprised.

again, the knee hardesty just injured was not the knee he injured in college.

by the by, ben tate, who cleveland wanted, but was taken the pick before, was never injured in college and is also out for the year.
 
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tsteele316;1763680; said:
You did not answer any of my questions. not surprised.

again, the knee hardesty just injured was not the knee he injured in college.

by the by, ben tate, who cleveland wanted, but was taken the pick before, was never injured in college and is also out for the year.
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Are you putting me on, or do you really not think this franchise has had some outrageous injury issues?

I did answer your questions, you asked for specific examples of moves Homgren made. I dont think you realised it but you named two in your own post-McCoy and Wallace.

In terms of moves that dont make sense, I think there are only a few moves that actually make sense. Hillis was a great trade. I like the pickup of a decent corner, a little old, but he fits what we try to do on defense.
 
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LitlBuck;1763618; said:
well stated:lol:

When was the last time there was any staph... give it a rest.

Just because you're still stuck on your boy from Notre Dame says nothing about McCoy.
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:rofl:

In deference to what C-dawg posted last week, I'm going to sit by and watch HateHineyRhabuf get himself banned again :lol:
 
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hatehineygate;1763710; said:
Are you putting me on, or do you really not think this franchise has had some outrageous injury issues?

I did answer your questions, you asked for specific examples of moves Homgren made. I dont think you realised it but you named two in your own post-McCoy and Wallace.

In terms of moves that dont make sense, I think there are only a few moves that actually make sense. Hillis was a great trade. I like the pickup of a decent corner, a little old, but he fits what we try to do on defense.
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outrageous injuries? no. more than normal? yes. more than normal for this time of year right now, absolutely not.

cleveland signed a backup qb, and their team president broke a tie on a 3rd round draft pick. how is that undermining the coach in attempt to usurp him as you are contending?

please, tell me of all these nonsensical moves again? All you have is a cheap backup qb for a 7th round pick, and a 3rd round project qb.

you have yet to show anything to back up your ridiculous claim.
 
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