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Cleveland Browns (2009 Season)

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schwab;1553652; said:
Worrying about what the hell we look like just makes it worse.

This team is 0-3 in New England's uniforms.
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Yep.

I hold the 2000 team as the benchmark for suckiness. This team is probably better defensively, but offensively, they're so horrid, it doesn't matter.
 
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Not to mention, the Brown are truly the poster-boys of the NFL.

As in, pick your favorite player, and next year's poster of him (do they still make those?) is against the Browns. Adrian Peterson and Derrick Mason as my proof, in this young season. Career highlights if you will.
 
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schwab;1553674; said:
Not to mention, the Brown are truly the poster-boys of the NFL.

As in, pick your favorite player, and next year's poster of him (do they still make those?) is against the Browns. Adrian Peterson and Derrick Mason as my proof, in this young season. Career highlights if you will.
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My wife and I were talking about this. Having a "Play of the Day" against the Browns shouldn't count. They need to introduce a degree of difficulty, like in diving or gymnastics. A play of the day against the Browns had better contain some Tecmo Bowl Bo Jackson laps around the field, not just making a couple guys miss.
 
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Eric Mangini might be worst NFL coaching hire ever - Joe Posnanski - SI.com

Ouch. There's some revelations in this article that, if true, significantly lower my opinion of Mangini.

Right now, Mangini is coming under more fire than I ever thought possible for a first year coach. There's a lot of people (including the author of that piece) that don't think he'll last this season. If this kangaroo court fires him before the season is out, you really have to wonder if anybody in Berea has anything resembling a clue to what they're doing. Well, I've wondered that for a while, but this really drives it home. Worse yet, if you can him after one year (or sooner) who in their right mind would want that job? Ten years into their rebirth and they've sunk to the lowest point in franchise history after two winning seasons and ONE playoff birth (that included a monumental choke to the arch-rival). How much more can we be expected to take?

Browns fans are arguably the most loyal/diehard in the NFL. They continue to flood to the games despite the pitiful state of the team. Maybe it's time to stop. Stop giving these clowns in charge your hard earned money. Maybe the only way to get through to them is to hit them in the only place they obviously care about...their pockets. Fuck this organization. I'll continue to follow along because ineptitude amuses me, but I no longer care.
 
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It Starts at the Top
Browns fans are considered among the NFL's most passionate, but the team?s uninspired 0-3 start after a decade of disappointment is trying their patience, to put it mildly.

Late in the fourth quarter of the Browns? 34-3 thumping at Baltimore last Sunday, Corey Recko turned off the television and fired up his computer.
"At the two-minute warning," said the 34-year-old Lakewood writer and lifetime Browns fan, "I?d just had it."

Up to here in football frustration, Recko posted an online call for fans to sign a "Randy Lerner Must Sell the Cleveland Browns" petition on gopetition.com.

"The once proud franchise in Cleveland has not been competitive under the ownership of Randolph (Randy) D. Lerner and is killing the strong fan support for the Browns," he wrote.

"Petition: We, the undersigned Cleveland Browns fans, ask Randy Lerner to do what is in the best interest of the Cleveland Browns, Cleveland fans, and the city of Cleveland, and sell the Cleveland Browns. The product on the field is unacceptable."

Within 24 hours, the petition had topped 700 signatures from Browns fans around the country. By early Tuesday evening, there were more than 1,200.

Some added comments, taking aim at the owner?s interest in a successful English pro soccer franchise and what appears to be a hands-off, indifferent approach to the Browns, at least publicly. Lerner took over the team when his father, Al, died in 2002.

"Sell the team to a Clevelander who cares about the fans, and focus on your soccor (sic) team please," one wrote.
"The complete mismanagement of the QB situation is all I needed to see. This is unacceptable from a passionate fan base. Sell our Browns and cheer for your true team Aston Villa," wrote another.

"We need a more involved, football-savvy owner," added another.
Because losing has been a pattern for all but two of the 11 seasons since the Browns returned in ?99, so has posting online petitions, calling for a coaching change.

An online call to "Fire Butch Davis and (then-offensive coordinator) Bruce Arians" in 2003 was followed by two "Fire Butch Davis" petitions in 2004 and a "Fire Romeo Crennel" petition last fall.

This time, frustrated Browns fans are bypassing the head coach, venting about the man who writes the checks.

"You can only change the quarterback and coach so many times," said Scott Bauchmoyer, a fan from Fairview Park who signed the petition. "If this was a company, you?d look to the CEO."

Recko wasn?t sure what he expected his petition to accomplish. He attended the team?s opening loss to Minnesota and has tickets for the Pittsburgh game in December, but may not even bother.

"They?re not even competitive," he said. "These Browns games are unwatchable.
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Im not a big fan of any one NFL team, I root a little for the Bengals and the Browns, but mostly I root for or against players I like or dislike. I dont wish ill will on the Browns, however I hope they dont ever fire the Mangenius. If they fire him, no one else except Detroit will be dumb enough to hire him again, and that means I cant use the word "Mangenius" as often, and that would truly be a shame.
 
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OState29;1554274; said:
It Starts at the Top


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The entire organization needs a top to bottom rebuild. Lerner has overseen a number of disastrous hires so accountability ultimately falls at his feet. Unfortunately, you can't fire an owner and the Browns are still a profitable venture. Basically, this organization is fucked six ways from Sunday. The only way to force a change is to stop supporting them. I don't know if that'll ever happen.

In Pictures: The Most Valuable NFL Teams Of 2009 - No. 13: Cleveland Browns - Forbes.com

If Lerner stays on long enough he'll become the Donald Sterling of the NFL. Even fucking Bidwell got to a Super Bowl for fuck's sake. :shake:
 
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