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ulukinatme
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Found this article and had to laugh too...written June of 2011. WSJ article outlining the last few innocent programs left in the NCAA...Penn State is in there 
My how things change.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...d=WSJ_hpp_sections_sports#articleTabs=article
My how things change.http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...d=WSJ_hpp_sections_sports#articleTabs=article
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Muck
Enjoy Every Sandwich
ulukinatme;2327214; said:Found this article and had to laugh too...written June of 2011. WSJ article outlining the last few innocent programs left in the NCAA...Penn State is in there
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303936704576400052122863390.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_sports#articleTabs%3Darticle
Even that article pointed out that things aren't always simple...
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Muck, I read the article today, and I thought he made some valid points. BTW, you do know that Nocera (along with David Brooks) acts as the Times' "house conservative" filling William Saphire's old role?
That aside, my understanding is that the academies' prep schools are there to bridge the gap for promising enlisted personnel who don't have the educational/societal background to otherwise succeed at one of the military academies. I didn't take Nocera as to be disparaging that role at all. To the contrary, he's taking the academies to task for perverting that historical mission and using valuable spots there (that otherwise could have gone to deserving enlisted men and women) as a crass and cynical means of getting promising athletes entered.
As an aside, he also mentions the abuse of those spots to get the children of Flag and General rank officers into the academies who otherwise would not be admitted on a competitive basis. That's a whole other can of worms but also a valid issue in my opinion.
That aside, my understanding is that the academies' prep schools are there to bridge the gap for promising enlisted personnel who don't have the educational/societal background to otherwise succeed at one of the military academies. I didn't take Nocera as to be disparaging that role at all. To the contrary, he's taking the academies to task for perverting that historical mission and using valuable spots there (that otherwise could have gone to deserving enlisted men and women) as a crass and cynical means of getting promising athletes entered.
As an aside, he also mentions the abuse of those spots to get the children of Flag and General rank officers into the academies who otherwise would not be admitted on a competitive basis. That's a whole other can of worms but also a valid issue in my opinion.
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cincibuck
You kids stay off my lawn!
Muck, I appreciate your input on this. My own question as I was reading this was if there were some way of following up to see if participation in sports contributed to leadership in the field?
Success in the classroom can lead to success as an officer (MacArthur, R.E. Lee) or it can indicate nothing (Grant, Patton). Funny, of the ones who did well, one left his air force on the ground for hours after Pearl Harbor and the second joined an armed rebellion against his government.
Success in the classroom can lead to success as an officer (MacArthur, R.E. Lee) or it can indicate nothing (Grant, Patton). Funny, of the ones who did well, one left his air force on the ground for hours after Pearl Harbor and the second joined an armed rebellion against his government.
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LovelandBuckeye
You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. - UFM
eightpointbuck;2327186; said:
Well, if you have ever seen the Quakers of Wilmington play any sport than I can guarantee no tomfoolery is going on there.
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