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Urban still left a team for another position. What about the players on the previous team? I guess he was selfish for leaving Utah? Fournette actually has been injured all year. But you know the players Meyer left are not that important...
My point is that fans should not be surprised by this. Its been a long time coming. College "student athletes" have fought for unions, argued about wanting to get paid, and now a few players(for the moment) are suggesting to bypass meaningless bowl games to rest their bodies. Right now its an anamoly, and maybe it says that way. I'm just saying, don't be surprised if it continues. And I see no difference in bypassing this one game as opposed to a player leaving a year early for the NFL. They still leave their "teammates"
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cincibuck
You kids stay off my lawn!
Fournette "Ain't no Fortunate Child." McCaffrey is.
I think what this is showing is just how much the BCS/CFP has affected the post season. Most of the bowl games have become what they were originally - exhibition games, set up to bring in tourist dollars, make TV money and create the idea that "the kids" are getting something.
If Fournette or McCaffrey were walking on teams that made it to the CFP my take on their actions would be entirely different. But walk on a game in which #13 plays #20...
The big reaction will come if we see TV ratings drop because stars are not appearing in minor games.
Two possible answers: 1. Make it worth the while of those players to show up for an exhibition. 2. Maybe those games shouldn't be played in the first place.
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Others have covered this, but I'm going to chime in anyway: CFB players owe me nada too. I don't really care if Christian McCaffrey or Leonard Fournette play in their bowl games or not, at least on a personal level. My argument that they should consider playing is rooted solely in the concept of 'team,' as if I were in the position of being their teammate.
Christian McCaffrey won the genetic lottery, and even had he not he was born into a family with two successful athletic parents that played professionally until their respective rivers of money ran dry. 90% of McCaffrey's teammates don't enjoy that luxury. They play football because they love playing football, and this is certainly the end of their competitive football careers. Sure ... they're future doctors, lawyers, Wall St fund managers, or whatever, but they're the ones out there throwing their bodies and brains around to open punt return lanes for him, pass block for him, and pave the road for him.
High draft pick or no, he's their best player, and he's walking out on his teammates -- and seniors -- because he's deemed his own draft prospects as more important than sending all those guys out with a win ... all those guys that risked their own health for three years doing the dirty work that leveraged him into a Heisman candidate and future first or second round pick.
I get it. The system is such that it's in McCaffrey's best interest to worry about Christian McCaffrey because the bowl game is meaningless (to him). I still think he's a cock-holster for bailing on his brothers. Their chances to win a game are materially affected by him tapping out.
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I don't have a problem with leaving one position for another. It's why I don't have a problem with a player forgoing his senior season. Because it's done after the current season is complete. I'm not naive, I know it's been coming, and I know it's going to become common place. I suspect you're going to have guys skipping out on their team earlier and earlier, once their team is no longer in the running for a title. That doesn't mean I have to approve of it, nor is it something I would teach my own son or daughter. You don't quit on your team and you finish what you start. I've actually HAD that conversation with my kids and I've made them finish their seasons.
As for players getting paid... I get so tired of this bullshit argument. So what if the schools are making a ton of money off their labor? Welcome to the real world. When I was working in college, at one point, I had 3 jobs. A local greasy spoon, Wendys and Revco. I worked and worked and worked.... I made peanuts. Dave Thomas was doing JUST FINE on my labor. As was whoever the fat cat at Revco was and even the local greasy spoon owner drove a really nice car and didn't seem to want for much... on MY - and my associates - labor. That's not "unfair" it's fucking life, dude.
If we're going to look at CFB as training for the NFL, so be it. When I was in school, I didn't get to march into some law firm and say "Well, I want you to hire me right here and right now." Nope... I had to finish my education. Why? Because I was in school to learn how to be a lawyer, I wasn't yet a lawyer. So, if we use the analogy, players are in school to learn how to play, they are NOT entitled, I repeat, NOT ENTITLED to a job yet.
I am eligible for the NFL draft. I will not be drafted. You want to know why? Among many other things, because I don't play college football and NFL GMs have not been exposed to my skill set. So, there's no way I'm going to ever tap into the relative life of luxury that of being an NFL player. Maybe I should blame Ohio State for raising money when I was in school but not giving any to me.
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Exactly the conversation my dad had with me and that I had with my daughter. Certainly one that I hope when the day comes that she has with her kid(s).
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Onebuckfan
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The biggest Question is will he be any good. Is his heart in it? He will have a comfortable life style without the brutality of pro football. He has more options than the average player in the NFL. I think he has red flags but we will see.
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Not my point. My point was he said he'd give anything to be able to play for Ohio State again. He had that choice and chose not to. I am fine with the decision, but let's not kid ourselves, he could be playing for OSU if he really wanted to.
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