Charlie Weis (ex-Kansas HC, ex-Fla OC, Notre Dame legend, UnDecided Schematic Advantage)

[NOTREDAMECHIEF]

+1

Just because Willingham sucked somewhere else AFTER they fired him, doesn't mean race wasn't a factor when they did.

Both of ND's co-ordinators are African American.......

 

[AJHawkfan]

Both of ND's co-ordinators are African American.......

Were they hired by ND or by Weis? I mean, I know they're ND employees, but did ND select them or did Weis?

 

[Bucklion]

Both of ND's co-ordinators are African American.......

Spin it however you want, but there is little doubt Ty was given less of a chance than Faust or Davie, and that Weis is getting now, despite similar records.

 

[NOTREDAMECHIEF]

Spin it however you want, but there is little doubt Ty was given less of a chance than Faust or Davie, and that Weis is getting now, despite similar records.

Charlie hired them both..

No spin at all from me, Charlie should have been fired IMO, but I also feel that race had nothing to do with Ty's firing.

 

[billmac91]

Charlie hired them both..

No spin at all from me, Charlie should have been fired IMO, but I also feel that race had nothing to do with Ty's firing.

I agree....ND saw an amazing opportunity in the coaching carousel, but unfortunately for them, got the wrong guy.

Bottom line, Ty didn't meet the expectations. How ridiculous those expectations are is another discussion....

 

[OSUsushichic]

Notre Dame's Charlie Weis: still the worst football coach in the universe. - By Jonathan Chait - Slate Magazine

 

[Muck]

That says a lot considering some of the shit teams they've fielded.

Yep. It speaks volumes about the AP.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Both of ND's co-ordinators are African American.......

Charlie hired them both..

No spin at all from me, Charlie should have been fired IMO, but I also feel that race had nothing to do with Ty's firing.

No one has said Weis himself is racist, only that the powers that be at ND appear to be...

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

No one has said Weis himself is racist, only that the powers that be at ND appear to be...

Charlie appears to hate everybody equally and consider himself superior to all humanity not just certain segments of it.

 

[NOTREDAMECHIEF]

BTW- Almost every ND fan I know is pisssssed that Charliie was not fired.

 

[TheIronColonel]

And not surprisingly, every non-Notre Dame fan I know is happy that you guys have to sleep in the bed you made.

 

[cincibuck]

I'm laughing while I can. Take a peek at ND's schedule for 2009:
The 2009 Notre Dame Football Schedule:

Sept. 5 NEVADA

Sept. 12 at Michigan

Sept. 19 MICHIGAN STATE

Sept. 26 at Purdue

Oct. 3 WASHINGTON

Oct. 10 Open Date

Oct. 17 USC

Oct. 24 BOSTON COLLEGE

Oct. 31 vs. Washington State (at San Antonio, Texas)

Nov. 7 NAVY

Nov. 14 at Pittsburgh


Michigan will have a freshman QB and a brand new D line. Michigan State will ot have Jevon Ringer, Purdue will have a new coach and QB. He should be five and oh and heading into an open date before geting smashed by USC. He gets BC in South Bend and then plays Wazoo in TEXAS(!!!) If you can't count eight wins in that line up you're not trying.

 

[Steve19]

BTW- Almost every ND fan I know is pisssssed that Charliie was not fired.

 

[Bucklion]

I'm laughing while I can. Take a peek at ND's schedule for 2009:
The 2009 Notre Dame Football Schedule:

Sept. 5 NEVADA

Sept. 12 at Michigan

Sept. 19 MICHIGAN STATE

Sept. 26 at Purdue

Oct. 3 WASHINGTON

Oct. 10 Open Date

Oct. 17 USC

Oct. 24 BOSTON COLLEGE

Oct. 31 vs. Washington State (at San Antonio, Texas)

Nov. 7 NAVY

Nov. 14 at Pittsburgh


Michigan will have a freshman QB and a brand new D line. Michigan State will ot have Jevon Ringer, Purdue will have a new coach and QB. He should be five and oh and heading into an open date before geting smashed by USC. He gets BC in South Bend and then plays Wazoo in TEXAS(!!!) If you can't count eight wins in that line up you're not trying.

Those first 2 games will decide id he goes Faust. Nevada isn't a total pushover, and going into the Shithouse isn't easy exactly (especially for a mediocre team with a QB who gets rattled), even when they suck. If he drops either of those, he's in trouble. Have to figure the Washingtons are wins, but otherwise, depending on how those first 2 games go, they could STILL struggle.

 

[BayBuck]

I'm laughing while I can. Take a peek at ND's schedule for 2009:
The 2009 Notre Dame Football Schedule:

Sept. 5 NEVADA

Sept. 12 at Michigan

Sept. 19 MICHIGAN STATE

Sept. 26 at Purdue

Oct. 3 WASHINGTON

Oct. 10 Open Date

Oct. 17 USC

Oct. 24 BOSTON COLLEGE

Oct. 31 vs. Washington State (at San Antonio, Texas)

Nov. 7 NAVY

Nov. 14 at Pittsburgh


Michigan will have a freshman QB and a brand new D line. Michigan State will ot have Jevon Ringer, Purdue will have a new coach and QB. He should be five and oh and heading into an open date before geting smashed by USC. He gets BC in South Bend and then plays Wazoo in TEXAS(!!!) If you can't count eight wins in that line up you're not trying.

I can count 8 wins if I'm trying, but I can just as easily count 5-6 losses.