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I was going back through some of my posts from last year. Urban is an absolute legend, but he's now facing a credibility crisis with his own players. You can't talk the talk about a high performance culture and keep people like Beck around. It's toxic to the commitment you're asking of players. I posted this last January - am I wrong, or does the offensive tape stick out like a sore thumb?
"Was going back through Urban's book earlier tonight and transcribing notes from the pages I'd dogeared - this paragraph stuck out. Remind me again why this guy is still here?
"If players are going to make the big push to join the elites, they need to believe it will be worth it. It’s important to remind them of the quality of leadership at Ohio State - let them know they are being taught by masters of their craft who have made a significant difference in other players’ lives. I make sure that my assistant coaches showcase the achievements of other great players they have worked with. Visuals such as videos and images are incredible tools to convey a message. It may not seem like a big deal, but these sorts of associations are important. It’s not about bragging. It’s about reinforcing that this is a special place that has produced special players. It’s about motivating the 80 percenters. When I walk into my own office and I see championship trophies, photos with presidents, keepsakes, and mementos and clippings of the Heisman Trophy finalists and winners I’ve coached, I feel good. If a prospective recruit is motivated by wanting to be part of that club, well, that makes me feel good, too."
We all remember what Zeke said last year - plus Taylor Decker (first minute):
These are Buckeye legends who are going to come around campus for decades to come. Think about how awkward it would be for them to publicly blast a coach knowing he's going to be there when they return - you only do that when you feel incredibly strongly. The good news is Urban's built a culture where people feel that level of ownership - the bad news is that is at risk the longer you keep people around that step on all the hard work the players put in. Beck doesn't belong. He'd lost the players last year, and did nothing but cement their suspicions this year.
Sounds like Urban's saying the right things post-game today - but he said similar things last year about it "not being a part of our history, and not happening again" last year: (first 6 minutes + 15:25 in):
I hope this time it's backed up by action so we don't have another year wondering what might have been. We all know you can't win championships every year, and there are some ways of losing you have to accept. Losing this way is not one that we should accept, and since championships are so hard, we can't continue to throw away opportunities like we have the last 2 years.
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I'm still not sure what the gameplan was. We avoided almost everything that Clemson had shown weaknesses against in the regular season until it was too late to matter.
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I must really be missing what we are talking about. Are you saying Dabo is saying because our coaching staff sucks on offense kids want to quit or is it that our staff has unrealistic expectations of our players? What players have quit so far? As far as I recall when Urban came we were soft physically and mentally and a lot of the players had been coddled which led to some of the shit we got in trouble for.
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Exactly what Decker says, confuses me so much about Werriner. At times, ie ND, 15 scUM, OU this year, he had a great game calling plays and attacking. And then we have the Wisconsins, Ped St, MSU shit shows and then this one tops them all. I used to think Werriner was the answer to the play calling. But it regressed this year badly.
The QB play has obviously regressed. Herbie just hit on it on ESPN, saying JT has regressed the last two years and how much we have missed Herman.
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We didn't have a coherent plan because our co-OC's are incompetent. I would love to be a fly on the wall of the meetings where they came up with that shit sandwich. Dollars to donuts they were playing Jenga.
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This section ... Wow. Curtis might be a first round talent if he builds on this next year. Brown could be a mid rounder if healthy and in a different offense.
Parris has yet to prove he's more than a blocker. Great athlete, inconsistent hands.
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Weber didn't even get 10 fucking carries so I don't know how you could say he was awful. I know he had a couple of fumbles but he was one of the few bright spots. Almost every carry he was getting at least 5 yards. I thought the O-line held up decently considering Jordan had to leave the game. They were giving JT time and their run blocking seemed okay the handful of times we actually called a run. How many times did the staff fucking run sideline-to-sideline despite the fact that most of our yards came from up the middle? How many shots deep did we take in the first 3 and half quarters? Durbin didn't have his finest game but, considering we barely even got to the red zone, I'm not going to be too hard on him.
It was the dumbest gameplan I've ever seen in my life. Even dumber than the 2015 MSU debacle.
And the defense had breakdowns because they were going up against the best offense in the country and the best QB. They held up incredibly well considering the fact that the offense hung them completely out to dry.
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Where was Urbs during the game planning? Could he have really believed running lateral and these cutesy plays were going to work against their defense? This is the same shit calling we saw all year. No rythmn, no tempo, no quick slants, no TE involvement, nothing different at all. So the gameplan was let's wing it with the same shit we always bring?
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Predated by yet another humiliating defensive performance, forcing wholesale defensive changes.
The problem here is that urban is the offense. OSU desperately needs a wizard that urban respects, a 5 man line and a passing game that can execute basic passes.
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