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StadiumDorm said:
I don't disagree that Hughes doesn't have a lot of experience setting up an offense. I disagree that the Cavs actually do set up much of an offense on most possessions. It usually running the offense through Lebron or Z, letting them see if they can create their own shot or hit the open man.

I also disagree that Larry has to play off the ball - in fact, he's not really a spot-up shooter at all. He's actually better off with the ball in his hands, which is where he can create his own shot or a shot for another. (EDIT: which is precisely why I really wanted Redd seeing as how we already have the best player in the league as far as shot creation for himself or others).
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I agree that they don't really run much of an offense but they do usually get into their base set. Then they either try and get it to Z or run a pick and roll with LBJ.

As for the second part, that is what I was trying to say, that he needs to be off the ball and not the pg. So he can get the ball and create, it is a lot harder to create as a pg than as a sg. Same reason I am not a big fan of LBJ as the point.
 
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crazybuckfan40 said:
I agree that they don't really run much of an offense but they do usually get into their base set. Then they either try and get it to Z or run a pick and roll with LBJ.

As for the second part, that is what I was trying to say, that he needs to be off the ball and not the pg. So he can get the ball and create, it is a lot harder to create as a pg than as a sg. Same reason I am not a big fan of LBJ as the point.
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I guess I can see LH doing what JMac used to do for this team from the point position, only better. (and of course, before JMac completely imploded the team.) Set up the offense, but have the guts to take it to a defense if they're giving it to you. Also, it's nice to have a guy at the point that can bail you out when the shot clock gets low - JMac used to do this a lot. (again before he imploded).
 
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StadiumDorm said:
I guess I can see LH doing what JMac used to do for this team from the point position, only better. (and of course, before JMac completely imploded the team.) Set up the offense, but have the guts to take it to a defense if they're giving it to you. Also, it's nice to have a guy at the point that can bail you out when the shot clock gets low - JMac used to do this a lot. (again before he imploded).
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And Hughes is a good enough shooter that teams couldn't play off of him like they do to Snow. Putting Hughes at the point, James at one wing and Jones/Pav/Marshall at the other would open up the middle of the court for whoever has the ball or Z and Gooden in the post. The defense has to stay with Lebron and Z. Pav et al can hit open 3's if you leave them wide open so you wouldn't want to double away from them. That would give you 5 players who could score on the court together, which I think would work pretty well.
 
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Snow actually shot decent the first 2 months of the season.

He shot 49% from the field in November+December

The wheels fell off big time in January and February (so far). He's shooting
38% from the field, 47% from the stripe and 0% from beyond(0-2)

He's not the weak link on the team, he's the broken link. We can get away with him sucking most games because we can beat most of the average teams. Come playoff time, we're dead in the water with him as the starter at the point.

He doesn't drive very well (still better than DJ), can't defend a pg with moderate speed and does look like a Mongoloid.
 
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ABJ

2/10/06

Posted on Fri, Feb. 10, 2006
For Z, getting some Z's is OK

Cavs' Ilgauskas not picked as an All-Star, but is happy to get rest

By Brian Windhorst

Beacon Journal sportswriter

<!-- begin body-content -->WASHINGTON - Zydrunas Ilgauskas will take next weekend off, and he's got no problem with it.
The Cavaliers center was not named as one of the Eastern Conference reserves to the All-Star team Thursday night.
Averaging 16.1 points and 7.5 rebounds per game, Ilgauskas is on pace to match his statistics from a year ago, when he was voted to his second All-Star team. The Cavs (29-19) also have a nearly identical record as this time last season, when they were rewarded with two All-Stars, the other being LeBron James as a starter.
This year, the East's coaches went a different direction, rewarding the Detroit Pistons for their general excellence by voting in four of them: Chauncey Billups, Richard Hamilton, Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace. Additionally, they voted younger when it came to the backup big men.
Toronto Raptors power forward Chris Bosh will be in the game in Houston next weekend.
New Jersey Nets star Vince Carter and Boston Celtics regular All-Star Paul Pierce rounded out the coaches' picks. There's still a spot to be filled, as the Indiana Pacers' Jermaine O'Neal can't start due to injury, but the winds suggest commissioner David Stern will pick Washington Wizards guard Gilbert Arenas for that role. Ilgauskas won't campaign for it.
``I've been on two (All-Star) teams; I'm not shedding any tears,'' Ilgauskas said. ``My body could use some days off and mentally and physically, four days off the floor would be nice.''
In his third year out of Georgia Tech, Bosh is having a monster season, averaging more points (23) and rebounds (9.2) than Ilgauskas. But he plays on the NBA's fourth-worst team, the Raptors being 17-32, and often coaches don't favor players from that area of the standings.
Cavs coach Mike Brown can't vote for his own players and said he hoped Ilgauskas would have made it, but he didn't do any lobbying with his fellow coaches.
``Every time the team is announced there is grumbling and complaining about who made it and who didn't,'' Ilgauskas said. ``The way I look at it, the guys on there deserve it and the guys who aren't there should get over it.''
Last season's selection perhaps meant more to Ilgauskas. He was in a contract year, and it surely helped his position. He also got to experience James' first All-Star Game with him.
``More than anything when I look back I was there for (Michael) Jordan's last time in Atlanta (in 2003) and LeBron's first,'' said Ilgauskas, who scored 12 points and had seven rebounds in the game last February in Denver. ``For the rest of my life, I can look back and tell guys about it after a few beers at the bar.''
Hurting Hughes
After Larry Hughes was seen by another specialist, Dr. Richard Barth, Thursday near Washington, the Cavs released a depressing report concerning his right finger. Hughes was upset he couldn't return this week to face his old team, the Wizards, but was still hopeful of returning just after the All-Star break. That doesn't appear likely now.
The Cavs announced that ``it is apparent that Hughes' finger has not progressed as desired'' and ``further options for his recovery are being explored.'' Hughes, who had three pins inserted in his knuckle to repair a splitting bone, has been experiencing swelling for weeks and recently switched to wearing a glove to help reduce it.
The Cavs said that no new timetable for his return has been established, but the original estimate of six to eight weeks could be extended now. Hughes, who was averaging 16 points, four rebounds and four assists before going down, has missed 20 games, and the Cavs are 11-9 without him.
LeBron at .500
After Wednesday's win over the Minnesota Timberwolves, the Cavs are 106-106 since drafting James. He's never been above .500 as a pro, starting his career off with five consecutive losses. The Cavs started 14-27 in James' rookie year before starting to improve. They finished 35-47 and missed the last playoff spot by a single game in 2004. Last season, they went 42-40 for their first winning season since 1997-98. James gets a chance to go over .500 tonight, when the Cavs play the Wizards at the MCI Center.
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They did metion on WTAM this morning that LeBron will be playing more
of the point when needed (how about all the time).

Too bad about Hughes. I hope it doesn't exten more than 2 extra weeks.

I, for one, am glad that Z didn't make the all star team. He needs the rest
so he can make it the whole way.

Arenas will be po'd tonight about not making the squad. He's a player. The Cavs are going to need someone to bust ass guarding him. Think it might be LeBron? It can't be Snow.
 
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Brutus1 said:
They did metion on WTAM this morning that LeBron will be playing more
of the point when needed (how about all the time).

Too bad about Hughes. I hope it doesn't exten more than 2 extra weeks.

I, for one, am glad that Z didn't make the all star team. He needs the rest
so he can make it the whole way.

Arenas will be po'd tonight about not making the squad. He's a player. The Cavs are going to need someone to bust ass guarding him. Think it might be LeBron? It can't be Snow.
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Man that sucks to hear about Hughes. We are goign to need him back down the stretch tho.
 
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With Pavlovic coming into his own I don't miss Hughes as much right now. The Cavs will need him at 100% to make a run in the playoffs so I'd rather him take the time and get healthy. Hopefully Newble can get back soon. It's too bad Jackson got hurt because this was his chance to get a lot more "burn" every game.
Having Pavlovic, Jones, Marshall, and Varejao coming off the bench in the playoffs is going to help a lot. The Hughes injury has made Pavlovic a much better player due to the added experience and confidence. In fact if Lebron is going to be playing more at the point I wouldn't mine having Pav and Hughes on the floor with him to give them more scoring. The same goes for Jones and Marshall since they all can fill that role.
 
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exhawg said:
With Pavlovic coming into his own I don't miss Hughes as much right now. The Cavs will need him at 100% to make a run in the playoffs so I'd rather him take the time and get healthy. Hopefully Newble can get back soon. It's too bad Jackson got hurt because this was his chance to get a lot more "burn" every game.
Having Pavlovic, Jones, Marshall, and Varejao coming off the bench in the playoffs is going to help a lot. The Hughes injury has made Pavlovic a much better player due to the added experience and confidence. In fact if Lebron is going to be playing more at the point I wouldn't mine having Pav and Hughes on the floor with him to give them more scoring. The same goes for Jones and Marshall since they all can fill that role.
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Yeah I wouldnt mind seeing that at all, but LBJ is going to need time off the ball, so I don't think we will see that lineup too much.
 
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Admittedly, I haven't been able to watch the last couple games here in St. Louis, but this team seems to be shooting horribly. Just following on-line, they have been hovering near the bottom of 40%. That needs to change.
 
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That foul call on Z was complete bullshit, after that he got ejected and we were screwed.

I didnt know Washington had such a big home-court advantage, the officiating was ridiculous, and when they didnt get a call they had the bitchiest players ive ever seen.
 
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scarletngrey77 said:
That foul call on Z was complete bullshit, after that he got ejected and we were screwed.

I didnt know Washington had such a big home-court advantage, the officiating was ridiculous, and when they didnt get a call they had the bitchiest players ive ever seen.
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Yeah we were getting homered tonite and it really got in our heads. Not a horrible loss, we just need to keep the streak at one this tiem.
 
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