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Grew up in Toledo - have been a Piston fan since 1987, thank you very much dumbass. You know, a team that actually can win titles ever so often. I know that concept is foreign to Cleveburg fans. :slappy:

And I thought you might have been a fan before good ole' number 11 got there.

And that makes you so much fucking better than a Cleveland fan. There's nothing more pathetic than someone who bases their accomplishments on something they had nothing to do with.

Congrats you Bengals-Pistons fan. You're so much better than me because you're not a Cleveland fan.

EDIT: you epitomize the term "loser" because you actually believe that you can crack on fans that cheer for teams that struggle as if you've done something to earn the right to be a Pistons' fan. I know a real Detroit fan. And you sir are not a real Detroit fan. So go hop on another 55 mph bandwagon and hope you don't get thrown off. I hear the Spurs are calling your name.
 
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Dispatch

2/12/06

WARRIORS 99 | CAVALIERS 91

Cavs stumble at home to sub-.500 Warriors

Sunday, February 12, 2006

James Walker
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

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CLEVELAND — There’s a nasty trend developing with the Cavaliers that could end up hurting them late in the season.
The Cavaliers have a way of playing down to their competition, particularly at home, which was evident in last night’s 99-91 loss to the Golden State Warriors (22-27).
The loss dropped the Cavaliers to 5-5 at home against teams worse than .500, which is not the type of record one associates with a team with playoff aspirations.
Cleveland is 18-7 at home, but five of those losses have come against the Warriors, Atlanta Hawks, New York Knicks, Houston Rockets and Philadelphia 76 ers. Those are the types of defeats that at the least could hurt seeding down the stretch.
Last night, the Cavaliers fell behind early and tried to make a run in the second half. LeBron James led Cleveland with 33 points — including five three-pointers — but he scored only two points in the fourth quarter.
The team followed suit by getting outscored 15-7 in the game’s final six minutes.
"Mentally, we weren’t there tonight," James said. "I guess you have games like that, but we need to find a way not to have games like that for us to be a great team."
Cavaliers coach Mike Brown also questioned the team’s effort.
"Our focus, our effort and our energy level against teams with (below .500) records is nonexistent," Brown said.
Besides James, no other Cavalier scored more than the 14 points of Zydrunas Ilgauskas, who missed 11 of 16 shots.
The Warriors also took advantage of the Cavs’ lack of defense by shooting 50 percent from the floor.
Warriors guard Jason Richardson led the team with 31 points on 12-of-26 shooting.
Cleveland nearly gave up 100 points for the second consecutive game. Golden State had scoring quarters of 29 and 27 in the win.
"We played defense for 10 — at the most 15 — seconds of every possession," Brown said.
At season’s end, the Cavaliers may be in a fight with at least four other teams for the fourth seed, which gives the team home-court advantage in the first round.
That might be too much forward thinking at this point for the Cavaliers, who have now lost four of the past six games.
Just making it to the All-Star break healthy and with a string of victories would suffice. The Cavaliers will play host to the San Antonio Spurs on Monday and play at Boston on Wednesday before getting six days of rest at the All-Star break.
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"Mentally, we weren’t there tonight," James said. "I guess you have games like that, but we need to find a way not to have games like that for us to be a great team."
Cavaliers coach Mike Brown also questioned the team’s effort.
"Our focus, our effort and our energy level against teams with (below .500) records is nonexistent," Brown said.

How many freaking times do we hear this? This team never has energy or focus. It seems like we read this every single night after they lose, which is more often than they should.
 
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And I thought you might have been a fan before good ole' number 11 got there.

And that makes you so much fucking better than a Cleveland fan. There's nothing more pathetic than someone who bases their accomplishments on something they had nothing to do with.

Congrats you Bengals-Pistons fan. You're so much better than me because you're not a Cleveland fan.

EDIT: you epitomize the term "loser" because you actually believe that you can crack on fans that cheer for teams that struggle as if you've done something to earn the right to be a Pistons' fan. I know a real Detroit fan. And you sir are not a real Detroit fan. So go hop on another 55 mph bandwagon and hope you don't get thrown off. I hear the Spurs are calling your name.

yeah, I should have been a Piston fan before Isiah when I was 6 years old. :roll1:
 
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yeah, I should have been a Piston fan before Isiah when I was 6 years old. :roll1:

From the late 80s, most kids from 8 - 15 years of age were this type of fan in "pathetic" order:

1. Lakers fan because they loved Magic and the Showtime. They justify abandoning the bandwagon when Shaq left because they hate Kobe.

2. Celtics fan because their parents loved the Celts growing up and they actually believed Bird was Basketball Jesus. They're not Celtics fans anymore.

3. Bulls fan because of Jordan (this was the majority). It was great for them, because when they won 6 titles in the 90s they could claim they weren't bandwagonders. I always laughed at that claim. Some are actually still Bulls' fans because it's easy to fall back on the recent past. But give it time.

4. Pistons fan because they wanted to be different, but were still frontrunners. These fans cursed Grant Hill when he left, paid scant attention when Jerry Stackhouse was the leader of the team, and fully jumped back on the wagon after Rick Carlisle built up a culture of defense and winning. Funny how Carlisle gets no credit for it, but hey, the bandwagonders don't care.

I was absolutely the only CAVS fan I knew growing up. I guess maybe I should have hopped on one of those bandwagons so I wouldn't be some "pathetic" "Cleveburg" fan who doesn't know what it's like to have his team win a championship.
 
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ABJ

2/13/06

Posted on Mon, Feb. 13, 2006
Hughes' absence disrupts offense

Cavs become stagnant without slashing guard

By Brian Windhorst

Beacon Journal sportswriter

<!-- begin body-content -->CLEVELAND - For 50 games, the Cavaliers have really tried to make defense their mantra because a team that can't score, can't win.
That fundamental basketball truth cuts both ways, though.
Since losing Larry Hughes with a finger injury in early January, the Cavs have actually improved their defense as far as the numbers go. Still, they are just .500 in those 22 games compared with an 18-10 record before.
A big reason is the constant troubles the Cavs have when they've actually got the ball.
In the past 22 games, the Cavs are averaging 93 points per game after averaging 102 before the Hughes injury.
They've averaged just 89 points in the past seven games, failing to score 100. Since losing Hughes, the Cavs have bested 100 just five times. They did it 18 times in the season's first 28 games.
Their shooting percentages are down along with their free-throw attempts and assists.
Their 3-point shot attempts are up.
These are all symptoms of a struggling offense. The dubious crown jewel in that run perhaps came Saturday in a 99-91 loss to the rickety Golden State Warriors when LeBron James only took two shots inside the 3-point arc in the second half and never reached the free-throw line.
``We just came down and tried to throw the ball into Zydrunas (Ilgauskas), but we didn't space the floor the right way or do anything prior to getting him the ball,'' Cavs coach Mike Brown said. ``We held the ball for a long time without cutting or trying to move the defense.''
The stagnant offense issue has been a growing thorn for weeks. Brown has been using James as the offensive point guard for huge periods of time during games, especially in the second half. This eliminates the option to post him up, as opposing scouts have been dutifully noting in their reports.
In that setup, it makes it very easy for teams to double-team James or force him away from the basket. Also Donyell Marshall, Damon Jones and Sasha Pavlovic have been playing a great deal together with James at the point, and all three are spot-up shooters who take position outside the 3-point line and wait.
Possession after possession, the opposition packs the lane to deny James' drives and to hassle Ilgauskas while simply allowing the Cavs to frequently settle for 3-pointers.
When Hughes was playing, he pressured the defense because of his ability to drive, shoot and pass, making it much tougher to shade the defense to James and Ilgauskas. He was also an option at point guard, taking pressure off James and freeing him to post up or run off of picks.
Brown is much more noted for defense than offense. Most of his sets are copied from his time with the San Antonio Spurs, whom the Cavs face tonight. The Spurs are built around a big man who can score (Tim Duncan), guards who can drive (Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker) and spot-up long-range shooters (Bruce Bowen, Robert Horry, Brent Barry, and now Michael Finley).
Graham makes mark
Rookie swingman Stephen Graham, midway through a 10-day contract, played well when foul trouble forced Brown to give him extended minutes on Saturday. He had four points, three rebounds, an assist and a steal in 12 minutes.
His energy was impressive especially compared with his teammates. Brown actually planned to sub for him at one point and then left him in.
With Luke Jackson injured and out for about seven weeks and Ira Newble's return uncertain, Graham likely earned no less than a second 10-day deal.
``I appreciate Coach letting me stay in there and get a feel for the game to see what I can do on offense and defense,'' Graham said. ``My main goal is to show what I can do in this short period of time.''
 
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Canton

2/13/06

Spurs (40-10) at Cavaliers (29-21)

Monday, February 13, 2006



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RADIO WHBC-AM 1480, WQKT-FM 104.5, WAKR-AM 1590, WTAM-AM 1100, WJER-AM 1450 FAST BREAKS After winning seven in a row, the up-and-down Cavaliers have lost four of their last six. They are 13-2 at The Q against teams with winning records, but just 5-5 at home against teams under .500. ... A big second half carried the Spurs past the Cavs, 102-76, on Nov. 4 in San Antonio. Tim Duncan led the Spurs with 21 points and 10 rebounds. Tony Parker added 18 points and eight assists. LeBron James finished with a team-high 20 points and four assists for Cleveland. Drew Gooden added 14 points and eight rebounds. ... The Spurs have won nine in a row, including the first six games of an eight-game road trip. MIKE POPOVICH
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Our 6'10" center is skipping our rec league playoff game tonight to go to the Cavs game. I hope they win because we sure as hell aren't. The Cavs need to find a way to stop Tony Parker. He single handedly beat the Cavs in game 2 this season. IMO the Cavs don't match up very well with the Spurs. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see the Cavs winning unless they are hot from outside.
 
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I can't disagree with Tibor. We can't blame anyone but the team for not playing well at home against shitty teams. There seems to be a complete lack of focus against bad teams at home. Maybe once, but more than a few times and I'll call that a pattern.

The Spurs have won 9 (?) in a row on the road. As bad as they kicked ass in game 2, The Cavs will need help to win this game.

When you have Snow guarding Parker, you've got trouble. Duncan played sick yesterday so maybe he will get sicker when he arrives in Cleveland.

I'm wondering if Graham will get more minutes tonight.
 
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Akron Beacon Journal said:
Cavs' Hughes to have more surgery

By Brian Windhorst

Beacon Journal sportswriter

<!-- begin body-content --> CLEVELAND - Cavaliers guard Larry Hughes will have to undergo additional surgery on his injured right middle finger, potentially knocking him out for the remainder of the regular season.

Hughes will be operated on Tuesday in Baltimore by noted hand specialist Dr. Thomas Graham.

Last week, the Cavs announced that Hughes' finger was not progressing following his Jan. 6 surgery in Cleveland. Doctors had inserted three pins to repair an injured knuckle.

The team had hoped Hughes would be able to return within the next two weeks under the original timetable. Now, his return date will not be known until after the second operation.

Hughes was the Cavs' biggest off-season free-agent signing. He agreed to a five-year, $60 million contract. He was averaging 16 points, four rebounds and four assists in helping the team to an 18-10 start. Since he has left the lineup, the Cavs have posted an 11-11 record.
... damn
 
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