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Cavs 2010-11 season (official thread)

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tsteele316;1870983; said:
they need a legit big man in the worst way.
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they also need a true PG...which sucks about this draft...Irving has been hurt all year, and sullinger, the best post player is 6'9 which is not ideally center height...ive also been hearing the cavs have been pretty quiet on the trade front...so i wonder if they are just going to keep everyone for now and deal with everything in the offseason, including our TPE to try and win 2 more games...if we got rid of jamison right now i dont think we could win another game this year, even tho he might play some of the worst defense on the team but that is hard to exactly say since everyone besides parker cannot play defense
 
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http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-110208/daily-dime
When Streak Ends, What's Cavs' Course?

By Marc Stein
ESPN.com

DALLAS -- There is that gleaming practice facility back in Cleveland envied by so many other teams. The owner, whatever you think of his unforgettable letter to LeBron James, has never been afraid to spend. And the salary? Good coaching money in this economic climate.
It all adds up to a job that Byron Scott says he couldn't possibly regret taking.
Not even after 35 losses in 36 games and the longest winless run this league has ever seen.
"Not at all," Scott said, willingly plopping down for a quick chat about the "R" word on the night his Cavaliers would slink away with their record 25th straight defeat.
"I still think," Scott insisted, "that this is one of the best jobs in the NBA."
He's stubborn enough to believe it, too. He's stubborn enough to believe it even after what happened late Monday in Dallas, where the Cavs sealed a 99-96 loss to the Mavs and a historic slice of futility with a fittingly agonizing sequence that seemed to have been drawn up especially for this dubious occasion.
Just a 3-pointer away from forcing overtime -- against an elite-but-disinterested team that frankly played like it wanted the visitors to finally win a game for the first time in 51 days -- Cleveland walked off with the memory of the buzzer sounding with the ball still stuck in Antawn Jamison's hands because Jamario Moon passed to Jamison when he should have hoisted.
"We're in the record books, we all know that, something we didn't want to be a part of," Jamison said. "But it is what it is. We can't turn back the hands of time. We just have to move forward.
"Has it been tough? Yes. Do you ask the question, 'Why?' Yes. ? I won't lie. After the games it's tough, man. So many losses in a row. But I still have to wake up the next morning, try to do my job and make it fun as well."
Jamison is a lot like his $4 million-a-year coach. He's the closest thing that the post-LeBron Cavs have to a star, stubbornly professional like Scott, and patiently answers the same questions over and over, starting at the morning shootaround and staring right at a plight that isn't his fault, either.
The steepest decline in NBA annals -- no team has ever gone from the best record in the league to the worst in the space of one season -- obviously began with LeBron James' decision to defect to Miami in free agency in July. Gilbert angrily (and regrettably) vowed that the Cavs would win a championship before LeBron ever did, amid a flurry of far angrier farewell rantings to Ohio's former favorite son, but the spiral has taken them far deeper into the abyss, starting with the 28-point hammering that James and the Heat inflicted in his return to Cleveland on Dec. 2.
Yet the notion that the Cavs' spirit was irretrievably broken that night, nearly two months ago, is a clear embellishment of LeBron's might and his old team's misery. Check out this roster. As one Eastern Conference scout colorfully explained in a recent Weekend Dime, Cleveland minus the injured Anderson Varejao and Mo Williams is "a summer-league team and Antawn Jamison." Spirit is hardly their biggest issue.
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The toughest stuff, if Jamison were prone to confessions, would surely be the growing likelihood that he'll have to spend the rest of the season as a Cav. NBA front-office sources say that few teams have been as active in recent weeks in trying to swing a trade or two before the Feb. 24 deadline than Cleveland -- with Jamison high on its list of movable assets -- but increasing apprehension about how restrictive the next labor agreement will be has prompted several teams to back off on deal-making.
Sources say New Orleans, for example, has a level of interest in Jamison, but also expressed skepticism that a suitable deal can be assembled before the deadline to send out the 35-year-old anywhere. It's true that Jamison has only one year left on his contract after this season, but that one season is valued at a meaty $15.1 million, which means Cleveland would almost certainly have to take back multiple players back to make the salary-cap math work.
The Cavs' apparent preference, like many teams out there unsure about what the future holds for the NBA's financial landscape, is preserving flexibility and accumulating young assets to take into the league's new frontier unless a trade delivers an undeniable talent upgrade. Cleveland also still possesses a $14.5 million trade exception created in the sign-and-trade transaction that official dispatched LeBron to South Beach, but importing more pricey vets like the Cavs did so often in vain during the LeBron era -- in hopes of convincing King James to stay in Cleveland -- doesn't sound too appealing now.
With word reaching us this week that the Cavs also see little benefit to buying out Jamison (one of their few coveted assets) if no trade materializes in the next two-plus weeks, odds start to increase that Jamison will be brought back with Scott for the new season -- whenever that might be post-lockout -- given how admirably they've been coping with what's happened since Cleveland's forgotten 7-9 start.
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I haven't watched much of the Cavs this year. Since the first Miami game I have watched around a total of one game if I happen to flip it over while it's on. I honestly don't think the talent on this team is as bad as the record. I think it's more of their spirit being broken than anything else. I still believe that if you take the Cavs current roster and added the Lebron that we thought he was last year against the Heat with the douche that Lebron ended up being the Cavs would own them.
I think it's sad that they are losing all these games, but in the long run it will be for the best. They need 2-3 years of high draft picks to rebuild this team and playing as poorly as they are right now will make sure that Gilbert realizes that there is no quick fix. Keep the young players and scuttle anyone that will be past their prime in 3-4 years.
 
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exhawg;1871001; said:
I haven't watched much of the Cavs this year. Since the first Miami game I have watched around a total of one game if I happen to flip it over while it's on. I honestly don't think the talent on this team is as bad as the record. I think it's more of their spirit being broken than anything else. I still believe that if you take the Cavs current roster and added the Lebron that we thought he was last year against the Heat with the douche that Lebron ended up being the Cavs would own them.
I think it's sad that they are losing all these games, but in the long run it will be for the best. They need 2-3 years of high draft picks to rebuild this team and playing as poorly as they are right now will make sure that Gilbert realizes that there is no quick fix. Keep the young players and scuttle anyone that will be past their prime in 3-4 years.
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i suggest you watch more games. the talent of this team is that bad.
 
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Oh, boy! Sign me up! :bonk:

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good article as usual by windy

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=windhorst_brian&page=Cavs-110209

Why the Cavs have sunk so low

By Brian Windhorst
ESPN.com

Dan Gilbert is quite familiar with incurring and then paying off debt. It is his primary business as a wealthy mortgage broker. The Cavaliers' owner and his organization, though, didn't plan for the balloon payment they're being forced to swallow in what has become a miserable winter in Cleveland.
The Cavs have officially reached "historically bad" status, their 25-game losing streak setting the mark for the worst run in NBA history. And it's actually worse than that, it's really 35 losses in 36 games in what has turned into a 10-week run of futility.
It has been a difficult descent to reality for the team and especially Gilbert. He got a lot of attention for predicting his team would win a championship before the Miami Heat after LeBron James signed there last summer. That was mostly just brash talk based on the emotion of the moment, even if critics will use it to horsewhip the team for years to come.
What Gilbert was truly confident about was that this year's team would make the playoffs, or at least seriously contend for them, and send a message around the NBA about the team's will and talent level.
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In the seven drafts the Cavs had while James was a member of the team, the team had only four first-round picks. When James left, there were only two players on the roster who had been drafted by the Cavs, Daniel Gibson and J.J. Hickson.
Through the years, the Cavs traded away picks and prospects to help them rent veteran players in efforts to stay near a championship level. The team had almost no players under development except for Hickson, who they staunchly had refused to give up in trade talks with the Phoenix Suns that potentially would have landed them Amare Stoudemire last February.
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Had they traded for Stoudemire he still could've signed with the Knicks as a FA, and Cleveland wouldn't have Hickson, either.

Would he have gotten them over the top last June? If so, would that have been enough to get LeBron to stay, and maybe convince Amare to stay? The world will never know. It may have just led to LeBron and Amare both signing with New York...but Cleveland might have a title.
 
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It's pretty clear to me that the whole LeBron & RuPaul to Miami thing had been in the works for a long time before Amare went on the trading block. Plus, it's not like Amare is good enough to carry a bunch of qutting bums past the Celtics in the second round on his own. All in all, I don't think it mattered a damn bit who Ferry was willing to give or get at last season's trade deadline. The die had already been cast.
 
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he had ulcerative colitis and it pretty much killed his career...from what i know his entire colon was removed and he lost a ton of weight as a result...i know at one point he tried out for the golden state warriors and last i heard he was overseas...its a shame because i really liked him when we drafted him...he was the king of throwing up floaters in the paint
 
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