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Cavs 2010-11 season (official thread)

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KingLeon;1830246; said:
Iguodala talk earlier: I have a friend who is a philly sports fan and they hate Iguodala. I don't want him.
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they don't use him correctly. he makes a ton of money. the franchise is a wreck and doesn't win. of course they hate him.

would he be a better fit on the cavs than in philly? i tend to think so. given where the cavs are right now, is taking on his contract a great idea? probably not, unless they have a series of other moves in the works.
 
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AuTX Buckeye;1830255; said:
who would you take... is there anyone really tearing it up
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I would obviously love to get Sullinger if he leaves early, but I also really like Kyle Irving's game as well as Kemba Walker....Cavs are not in the business of drafting by position since we need to take the best player available...Perry Jones is also a player with alot of upside
 
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y0yoyoin;1830262; said:
I would obviously love to get Sullinger if he leaves early, but I also really like Kyle Irving's game as well as Kemba Walker....Cavs are not in the business of drafting by position since we need to take the best player available...Perry Jones is also a player with alot of upside
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byron scott's system is predicated on having a pg that can run the show well. that's why irving is probably being mentioned so much. if cleveland deals mo williams and acquires more picks, and clears out some other dead space, taking on iguodala isn't the worst thing in the world. cleveland could actually field a back court that plays legit perimeter defense. now, if they could only clear the sand out of jj hickson's vagina....
 
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tsteele316;1830264; said:
byron scott's system is predicated on having a pg that can run the show well. that's why irving is probably being mentioned so much. if cleveland deals mo williams and acquires more picks, and clears out some other dead space, taking on iguodala isn't the worst thing in the world. cleveland could actually field a back court that plays legit perimeter defense. now, if they could only clear the sand out of jj hickson's vagina....
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yah mo is not the PG for this system, or many systems in the NBA...mo needs to be out on the wing coming off screens instead of dribbling the ball up the court and then taking an immediate shot while guarded...its his style, sort of like chauncey billups but mo is no chauncey....ive said before im all for trading mo, jamison, verajo, parker, moon, powe....anyone old and non productive that we can get anything for....i wouldnt mind iguodala but i dont think a trade for him does anything for the long-term future of this team...by the time we will hopefully be good he will be 30 years old and out of his prime...and im not even sure about his contract, so even if the cavs did trade for him would he resign here? probably not....and what the hell is wrong with hickson? how is he not putting up 15 and 10 every night no questions asked? i know he is having trouble with scott's system but maybe scott needs to run more plays for hickson to get him more involved...but even if he doesnt understand the offense exactly yet, there is still no excuse for his lack of rebounding....Cavs as of right now have a first round and 2 second round picks in this years draft...so we have a 3/60 chance of hitting a home run on one of these guys and hopefully all 3
 
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espn insder chad ford answered alot of cavs questions during his chat that some may find interesting
Sean (Philly)
Chad, thanks for the time. Any chance the Sixers look to move Iguadala right after Dec 15? They need to get a better look at Turner and the only way to do that is to move Iggy.
Chad Ford (1:02 PM)
I think he's at, or near, the top of the list of players likely to be traded before the February trade deadline. The combination of Holiday, Turner & Iguodala isn't working and if the Sixers can get Iguodala's number off their books, their in much better shape financially as well. My only issue ... is Evan Turner going to step up? He's got a lot of potential if the ball is in his hands, but off the ball I have serious questions.
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Jackson (Rochester, NY)
What happened to the Cavs? At the beginning of the season they played like a scrappy team that could sneak into the playoffs by outhustling opponents. Now they seem like the worst team in the league. which are they?
Chad Ford (1:07 PM)
They got the crap beat out of them by LeBron. It was humiliating. Up until that moment, I think they were playing with a bit of a chip on their shoulder. After that beat down, in front of their hometown fans, I think it was over. They looked and still looked demoralized. Dan Gilbert is going to have to clean house and he should. At the very least, someone on the Cavs should've knocked LeBron to the floor after the taunting of their bench. Honestly, the most pathetic performance I think I've ever seen from a pro NBA team. My guess is, by October of next year, virtually every player on the team will be wearing a different uniform.
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Eric (Cleveland)
How close was Amare to being a Cav last year around the trade deadline? Is it true that the Cavs didn't trade Hickson to PHX because they didn't want to upset LeBron by trading one of his friends?
Chad Ford (1:08 PM)
It was close. But it wasn't because the Cavs management didn't want to upset LeBron. They were worried about losing LeBron. They also had no idea whether Stoudemire would re-sign in Cleveland with or without LeBron. It's tough to give up your one decent asset on a risk like that.
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gregg (d.c.)
The only plausible move for the Cavs at this point is to blow the whole thing up and rebuild. What kind of market do you see for Andy, Mo, Antawn, etc.?
Chad Ford (1:18 PM)
Actually Varejao will be the easiest to move if the Cavs are content getting cap relief & a future asset (which they may need to be at this point). Teams always need bigs who can rebound and Varejao would help a lot of squads. Antawn probably has a market too, again if the Cavs are willing to just take back an expiring. Mo Williams will be a little tougher to trade. There's a lot of really good point guards in the league right now. Hickson has a market too
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Disco (Chicago)
Mo to Kings? Only team I can think of that badly needs a PG
Chad Ford (1:21 PM)
Good call.
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If they trade Andy I would either want a young player with a lot of upside or a first round pick. Any team that would want Andy would probably be in the bottom 10 of the draft so I don't think a first rounder is asking too much. Any of the older players can be had for cap relief. If they do end up picking up a bunch of 2nd round picks they need to spread them out so they don't have more than 2 a year. With 15 guys on the roster you can only assimilate a few new players a year.
 
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exhawg;1830536; said:
If they trade Andy I would either want a young player with a lot of upside or a first round pick. Any team that would want Andy would probably be in the bottom 10 of the draft so I don't think a first rounder is asking too much. Any of the older players can be had for cap relief. If they do end up picking up a bunch of 2nd round picks they need to spread them out so they don't have more than 2 a year. With 15 guys on the roster you can only assimilate a few new players a year.
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im interested to see what verajo's trade value is on the market...it would be outstanding to get a first round pick for him...and as far as the 2nd round picks we can always stockpile them and use them in trades as well so draft picks never hurt especially when your a bad team
 
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exhawg;1830536; said:
If they trade Andy I would either want a young player with a lot of upside or a first round pick. Any team that would want Andy would probably be in the bottom 10 of the draft so I don't think a first rounder is asking too much. Any of the older players can be had for cap relief. If they do end up picking up a bunch of 2nd round picks they need to spread them out so they don't have more than 2 a year. With 15 guys on the roster you can only assimilate a few new players a year.
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acquiring picks isn't necessarily for drafting purposes. i can see the cavs packaging picks for players or to move up in a current draft.

i do disagree with chad ford about one thing. that cleveland team was demoralized long before lebron set foot in the Q. They came to the realization quickly that they were out manned. the fact that they never even put forth the effort in that game is evidence of that. it isn't like they played their hearts out and just got beat by a better team. they were belly up by opening tip.
 
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tsteele316;1830546; said:
acquiring picks isn't necessarily for drafting purposes. i can see the cavs packaging picks for players or to move up in a current draft.

i do disagree with chad ford about one thing. that cleveland team was demoralized long before lebron set foot in the Q. They came to the realization quickly that they were out manned. the fact that they never even put forth the effort in that game is evidence of that. it isn't like they played their hearts out and just got beat by a better team. they were belly up by opening tip.
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they might of been demoralized but they actually played like they gave a shit up until 5 minutes in when lebron went to the line, hit 2 FT's and then the heat went on a 16-0 run or something stupid like that
 
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KingLeon;1830246; said:
Iguodala talk earlier: I have a friend who is a philly sports fan and they hate Iguodala. I don't want him.
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He's a slasher who prefers to shoot fade aways and ill advised 3pts. Not a good combo. I think he's been watching Kobe highlights a tad too much the past few seasons.

I would pass if I was the Cavs. Not good for cap or team productivity.
 
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lord vegas;1831024; said:
He's a slasher who prefers to shoot fade aways and ill advised 3pts. Not a good combo. I think he's been watching Kobe highlights a tad too much the past few seasons.

I would pass if I was the Cavs. Not good for cap or team productivity.
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if you have watched anthony parker, jamario moon, and jawad williams at all this year, you would probably think differently. his contract is bad. but the cavs are not going to be signing any FA's of value anytime soon and will be clearing a ton of cap from the books in the next 6 months. AI's contract won't be the deterrent for cleveland.

besides, he will either play within byron scott's system or ride the bench. ask ramon sessions and jj hickson.
 
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