Can there really be Reverse Racism

[ORD_Buckeye]

What if you're white, but you hate white people? What kind of racism is that?

 

[cincibuck]

Someone want to tell me why, in Cali, I dont quality for affirmative action now?:)

1. Because even at 39% there is still a bigger block of caucasians.

2. During the 80s when the U Cal system was having problems with diversity enrollment they looked at going purely on merit and discovered that the resulting classes would have been exclusively Asian and that they would need white quota admissions, not to mention the hell that would raise with alumni and their gifting.

 

[Bucklion]

There's no such thing as "reverse racism" it's racism no matter how you look at it. I know guys from mexico who talk trash on people from el salvadore, they are racist. My grandfather hates everything that isn't white, he's racist, and I've run into black people who hate white people like they are the devil. All of that is racism. The reality of this question is that white people have done a lot to other races so somehow it's reversed if people hate them, but that's not the case. Hate is hate, even if you call it something else.

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I suppose it depends on what the definition of "racism" is that one uses. "Institutional racism", as people use the term, requires power of some kind...individual racism does not. Racist (person) really just (to me) means you a) view the world in terms of your race and others in a prominent way, and b) you view the flaws of others through or because of their race, as opposed to on an inidivudal level. Ironically, the same people who fit this criteria are often the ones who explain away all of their own flaws by screaming racism or reverse racism or whatever about anyone else who dares bring them up. Racists are not always violent, not always even "hateful" as it were, but are often ignorant, and most certainly are always insecure. It's a condition, more than a belief system, to me, more to cover one's own inadequacies by pointing out those of others, on the basis of something that is readily identifiable.

Example (and please no one be offended, I could pick any race and find plenty of them, but this one is often in the news front and center): someone mentions the out-of-wedlock birth rate in the black community. First response: "You're a racist". How is that exactly? At first glance it is a preposterous statement. Did white people make anyone have babies out of wedlock? Of course not. So whose fault is it? Well, therein lies a very complex question, given the "Institutional racism" component. How? Well, for example, the fact that slave families were routinely broken up and sold separately for a couple of hundred years. Result: There hasn't been much of a family structure in the community, which was entirely out of their control. Now, should they "have gotten over it by now"? Well, one could argue to an extent, but when the socioeconomic playing field has not been level, it is difficult to expect a group make a quick rise to a level playing field.

The moral of the story? One can have a deep, meaningful, multifaceted discussion, nuanced and appropriate...but most of the time the racist tag gets tossed out there and that's the end of it. Bitterness on side A, bitterness on side B. And the same thing happens with not only race, but abortion, and many other issues. The bottom line is a lot of people want them fixed, but are unwilling to open their minds to talk about them because of their own insecurities. So yes, people of all races can be (and are) racist to the core. There is no power required for that, but rather it stems from the insecurity of not having (or the fear of losing) said power.

 

[Mike80]

When I was 12 years old, my parents took us to Potomac Mills in Virginia

We were going store to store and minding our own business (along with the other customers I guess) when we noticed a group of individuals (about 20 or so) out in the main hallway/corridor just standing there and staring at people. it was friggin odd to say the least.

Then I noticed three things: one - all of these people were black and in the age range of mid-teens to mid-twenties give or take. The leaders of the group were a bit older.

two: All of them would STARE at people who weren't black.

Three: ALL of them wore a shirt that said "The Blacker the College The SWEETER The Knowledge" and the word "sweeter" was emphasized.

The concept is real, but was OC said, it's not "reverse" at all, racism is racism and racist fools exist no matter the group.

 

[Taosman]

Washington - The United States will have a more racially and ethnically diverse population by 2042 as minority groups will outnumber the white population by that year, the US Census Bureau said Thursday in a revision of demographic projections.
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/n...diverse_population_whites_outnumbered_by_2042

 

[Jake]

Racism is racism, regardless of the reason one uses to justify it, and it's one of the easiest - and dumbest - ways to assess the value of an individual.

 

[BuckeyeMan]

Washington - The United States will have a more racially and ethnically diverse population by 2042 as minority groups will outnumber the white population by that year, the US Census Bureau said Thursday in a revision of demographic projections.
US will have more diverse population, whites outnumbered by 2042

Oh shit!

 

[MightbeaBuck]

There was slavery in the US before it was the US, and it continued until the thirteenth and fifteenth amendments. And from today's perspective it was not a good thing :!. The problem now is that people in the United States can't let it go .

Every country in the world has had slavery, and not just of the natives. Every country in the world imported its slaves, as we did. The difference is everyone else seems to be able to let it go.

We can't. Neither side. More than enough blacks play the race card. That's matched with more than enough whites who are racist. The part of the equation that's lopsided is the overly liberal-wear-it-on-their-sleeve :moody: (usually) whites that are making everone else miserable by pushing, pushing, pushing. Someday we need to just let it drop.

I don't like to have other countries dictate to us as to how to do things. But this isn't dictating, because its not forced by a government. This is following an example of something that is more or less working. And it isn't forced on citizens of these other countries, they just do it because its easier to not be racist than to be racist. Most of the prejudism practiced in other countries is not based on former slavery, but on other "things": religion, nazism, etc.

In answer to the question, "Can there be reverse racism?" I say yes, but lets quit it!

 

[Muck]

Reverse racism is a meaningless term coined for the same misguided reasons that spawned most of the other programs mentioned previously.

The mindset is that minorities need protection because they are unable to move forward without the help of their well meaning (read: smarter) patrons.

Some racists just get a pass because they disguise it as philanthropy.

HOw is racism against whites in Cali any different than racism against any other race different? [/i]

It's all the wonder bread's fault to begin with so they deserve it.

AA may have it's down points, but I'll take it over the alternative.

The alternative is hiring/promiting/advancing people based on their merits.

Color me crazy but I'd much rather go that route.

Unfortunately, racism is a large part of this country's history.

Racism is a large part of every nation's history.

What if you're white, but you hate white people? What kind of racism is that?

Liberal self hate.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Anyway, my question is, isn't the idea of reverse racism inherently racist in itsself as that would imply that only the dominant (read majority) race can be racist.

Bingo.

I had a class that said only the dominant race could be racist. If a minority race was racist it was prejudice, discrimination or something.

Then that class was wrong. If you have a belief and/or take action based solely on a generalized perception of a race, than that is racism pure and simple.

If a Black said he "hates gooks", or a Hispanic said he "hates porch monkeys", or an Asian says he "hates crackers" (on in the case out here, a local person says he "hates Haoles") are they not racist even though they aren't members of the "dominant" race in America?

 

[SparkyOSU]

I don't see your corallary. I spelled that wrong. you get my point. By definition reverse racism would impy as you stated but by common use it means something completely different. Dominant race is a subjective term as well, depending on state census. In California, white is a minority now. HOw is racism against whites in Cali any different than racism against any other race different?

Maybe I should stay out of this until I am sober. Never mind.

Reverse Racism is an impossible term. Even if you use 'reverse racism' as it is ignorantly intended (like black racism towards whites or any other form of reverse racism) the end result is RACISM. End of story, 'reverse racism' is a popular term coined to provide a quick (albeit, redundant) description of what the situation is. Thats like saying "thats a fast race car" - race car implies it should be fast.

 

[DaytonBuck]

Bingo.


Then that class was wrong. If you have a belief and/or take action based solely on a generalized perception of a race, than that is racism pure and simple.

If a Black said he "hates gooks", or a Hispanic said he "hates porch monkeys", or an Asian says he "hates crackers" (on in the case out here, a local person says he "hates Haoles") are they not racist even though they aren't members of the "dominant" race in America?

I disagree with it too but that's definition the liberal guilty white prof gave us

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

I disagree with it too but that's definition the liberal guilty white prof gave us

And there you have it...

 

[OCBuckWife]

Reverse Racism is an impossible term. Even if you use 'reverse racism' as it is ignorantly intended (like black racism towards whites or any other form of reverse racism) the end result is RACISM. End of story, 'reverse racism' is a popular term coined to provide a quick (albeit, redundant) description of what the situation is. Thats like saying "thats a fast race car" - race car implies it should be fast.

Ok, that makes sense. I am also not attempting to comprehend while half-crocked like I was the first time.

"Reverse racism" is really just a buzzword. Racism is racism is racism.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Ok, that makes sense. I am also not attempting to comprehend a white half-cracker like I was the first time.

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