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Cam Newton (QB New England Patriots)

cincibuck;1814400; said:
Six pages of misdirected adulation?

I am dizzy with having been up all night and slept little, but I read your comment as six (6) pages (young men in tights) of misdirected adulation (priests "loving" them to cover their own true feelings).

I have issues.

And I want Auburn kicked out of the SEC and losing its accreditation, and hopefully a few other SEC schools nailed. I guess it's schadenfreude, but such a lovely word deserves my misdirected adulation.
 
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This is as good a time as any to draw the obligatory comparison bewteen Auburn getting kicked out of the SEC and Izzy getting kicked out of Guns N Roses.

Seriously which is worse;

The SEC is telling you that your academics are an embarrassment, you cheat too much in football recruiting and you have to go away now because you make the rest of them look bad,

or

The other Gunners telling you that your substance abuse is just completely out of control and they can't have it in GNR?
 
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Jaxbuck;1814413; said:
This is as good a time as any to draw the obligatory comparison bewteen Auburn getting kicked out of the SEC and Izzy getting kicked out of Guns N Roses.

Seriously which is worse;

The SEC is telling you that your academics are an embarrassment, you cheat too much in football recruiting and you have to go away now because you make the rest of them look bad,

or

The other Gunners telling you that your substance abuse is just completely out of control and they can't have it in GNR?

I think you mean Steven Adler....

Adler was briefly fired from the band, but was reinstated after signing a contract promising to stop using drugs.[13] In April 7, 1990, he performed with Guns N' Roses at Farm Aid IV in Indiana. It would be his last appearance with the band. When problems in the studio continued, he was formally fired on July 11, 1990,[14][15] during the recording of the Use Your Illusion I & Use Your Illusion II albums, and replaced with Matt Sorum. The official reason for his departure, according to various members of the band, was his heavy substance abuse which impeded his ability to work. Geffen A&R rep Tom Zutaut, who worked with Guns N' Roses, corroborated this claim, stating in a 1999 interview, "Steven Adler would show up at the recording studio completely high. Recording sessions would abort for several days when he couldn't put it together."[16]
In October 1991, he filed a lawsuit against his former Guns N' Roses bandmates, claiming that they were responsible for his drug addiction and that the contracts he had signed actually took away his financial interest in the band.[17] In a 2005 interview he stated, "Doug Goldstein called me into the office about two weeks later. He wanted me to sign some contracts. I was told that every time I did heroin, the band would fine me $2,000. There was a whole stack of papers, with colored paper clips everywhere for my signatures. What these contracts actually said was that the band were paying me $2,000 to leave. They were taking my royalties, all my writing credits. They didn't like me anymore and just wanted me gone. That's why I filed the lawsuit - to get all those things back."[8][15]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Adler

This is Stradlin's saga...

However, despite the long friendship, tension between Rose and Stradlin would eventually boil over. Stradlin finally decided to leave the band after a show in Mannheim, Germany, on August 24, 1991. Fairly early on in the set (which started rather late to begin with), Rose walked off the stage for no apparent reason. The band tried to convince him to return onstage (including a heated encounter between Sorum and Rose), but he refused. Fearing another incident like the riot at St. Louis, the management locked the gates around the venue so that Rose could not leave. Once Rose realized he was not going anywhere, he returned onstage and finished the set.
The next day, Stradlin informed the band through their manager Alan Niven that he was quitting. According to Stephen Davis' Watch You Bleed: The Saga of Guns N' Roses, the final straw for Izzy came when Axl attempted to put him on salary. Davis quotes Robert John, the band's photographer: "We were in Germany, and I knew something was wrong. The band wasn't going onstage, and nobody knew why. Duff came out of the band meeting, really upset, and then went back in again...Then word filtered down to the crew that what happened was something about Izzy getting demoted...I couldn't believe this, because I thought Izzy wrote all their best songs. He was Axl's writing partner."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izzy_Stradlin
 
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Jaxbuck;1814413; said:
This is as good a time as any to draw the obligatory comparison bewteen Auburn getting kicked out of the SEC and Izzy getting kicked out of Guns N Roses.

Seriously which is worse;

The SEC is telling you that your academics are an embarrassment, you cheat too much in football recruiting and you have to go away now because you make the rest of them look bad,

or

The other Gunners telling you that your substance abuse is just completely out of control and they can't have it in GNR?


I USED TO DO A LITTLE BUT A LITTLE WOULDN'T DO IT - SO A LITTLE GOT MORE AND MOR-AH!

cam_newton_money_bag.jpg
 
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Cam Newton Investigation ? Cecil and Cam Hire Same Lawyer

LOS ANGELES (LALATE) ? Lost in the Cam Newton denials yesterday was one peculiar revelation. Why did Cam Newton allegedly retain the same lawyer as his father, while he tries to defend himself against his father?s conduct during the Mississippi State recruiting process?

WSBTV spoke to attorney George Lawson this week in an exclusive report in which the station claims that Larson is the ?lawyer for Auburn University quarterback Cam Newton and his father?. Lawson offered the station a series of denials on behalf of his client Cam Newton. But Lawson added, that whatever client Cecil Newton did with Mississippi State, his other client Cam Newton wasn?t involved with.

The NCAA has said that solicitation of money alone is a violation. ?[T]he solicitation of cash or benefits by a prospective student-athlete or another individual on his or her behalf is not allowed under NCAA rules.?
But the NCAA has not made clear what is the standard for ?on his behalf?. The key for Cam Newton is those three words. The assertion being made by the Newton camp is that whatever was said by Cecil Newton for Cam Newton it wasn?t ?on his behalf.? Yes, Cecil Newton is Cam?s father. Yes, he allegedly communicated payment plans and money demands in the Mississippi State recruitment. But if he did, was it really ?on his behalf?.
Moreover, can an athlete, allegedly knowledgeable of who was handling his recruiting, simply defend any solicitation accusation by arguing lack of knowledge? The NCAA has to explain. NCAA officials made clear last week that it will not speak to the news media about ?current, pending or potential investigations?,

Entire article: http://news.lalate.com/2010/11/19/cam-newton-investigation-cecil-and-cam-hire-same-lawyer/
 
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There's no way that the NCAA lets Cam and Cecil get away with this. If they do, it just opens the floodgates for any parent to go out and solicit payment for their kids services (and not just from schools but from agents, car dealers, boosters etc.) with no threat of sanctions against the kid so long as kid and pop stick to their story.
 
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buxfan4life;1813872; said:
Not trying to answer for cinci here, but I would like to point out that if Fairley was in the Big Ten, he would be suspended by the Conference for a couple of games for his malicious style of play. This happened to a UM player and an OSU player in the past couple of years for unsportsman like conduct. I have never heard of a case where the SEC has done the same.

Auburn has more problems than accusations against QB Newton

Auburn's second-ranked football team has more problems than just the accusations of academic cheating and NCAA violations leveled at quarterback Cam Newton. Two of the Tigers' defensive linemen will miss at least half of the Nov. 26 Iron Bowl against No. 12 Alabama because of Southeastern Conference suspensions.
Near the end of Saturday's 49-31 victory over Georgia, Auburn players began scuffling in separate incidents with the Bulldogs. Because of punches thrown, two Auburn defensive linemen were ejected -- tackle Mike Blanc and end Michael Goggans -- and must sit the first half against the Tide. It's possible coach Gene Chizik could level his own punishment on top of that. Neither player starts, but both have appeared in all 11 games.

Entire article: http://content.usatoday.com/communi...ions-against-qb-newton/1?loc=interstitialskip

WOW, 1/2 a game suspension. :biggrin:
 
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