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Cam Newton (QB New England Patriots)

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The way Florida is set up with punishing cheating, it wouldn't surprise me that Cameron would be on the hook for three violations. He'd probably cheated before and not gotten caught, but once nailed they flag the student and fast-track all future complaints. He was allegedly set up for a hearing in the spring but took off for that junior college before it convened. Given the blazing speed of the university bureaucracy, I can see this as a plausible chain of events. I also hope UF did not engage in any money-waving shenanigans when Cam was recruited for the first time. I think we're good on that score - Florida is not, say, Free Shoes U or Georgia, to take some shots at some rivals. I just worry about crazy boosters.
 
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MaxBuck;1808613; said:
At this point, the Newton family is just riding the storm out. But I can't fight this feeling any more that Cam's Heisman hopes are dead at last.

I'm sure the donor to Pastor Newton's church had only good intentions, but being kind can hurt someone sometimes.
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well the ole saying goes " the road to hell is paved with good intentions"

but onto the subject at hand..

people are wondering about the time and bitching saying its a witch hunt, character assassination... many other descriptive phrases. Here's something people aren't really saying or even thinking about.. most of this stuff has been made known to the NCAA for quite some time.... from the Reggie Bush/USC money grab its very clear the NCAA takes its sweet time to ensure everything thats given up is hollow and meaningless.

I would not put it past someone in the know to "leak" this information to the media to stick a hot poker up the NCAAs ass to move their feet on this investigation...

Also I grew up in Alabama was there for Auburns probation in the 90s as well as Alabama's.... the shit is just getting started.... everyones in an unofficial truce until something like this happens... most of the times its just 2 schools... right now its 3 and someone else is gonna start piling on.... this is going to be very interesting to see what happens.
just my thoughts ... don't know if its been mentioned here.
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Auburn_Tigers_football_team
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MaliBuckeye;1808924; said:
Looks like there are other people who also think this way-

Source for FoxSports.com story on Cam Newton likely violated federal law
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I think someone else may have alluded to this before, but if the "source" was someone close to the situation whom had first hand knowledge of this and is not part of the university staff, then it wouldn't be a violation under FERPA.

Example: Cam tells a buddy he is transferring becasue he got caught cheating; Cam f's over said buddy for something and said buddy decides to take a little revenge and calls the media about the real reason Cam transferred. This, I believe, is not covered under FERPA.

Also, the student that supposedly outed Cam to the professor about the alledged name change on the paper could have said something about it to the media and not be in trouble under FERPA.

But, I don't work in higher-ed and could be totally wrong.
 
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buxfan4life;1808942; said:
I think someone else may have alluded to this before, but if the "source" was someone close to the situation whom had first hand knowledge of this and is not part of the university staff, then it wouldn't be a violation under FERPA.

Example: Cam tells a buddy he is transferring becasue he got caught cheating; Cam f's over said buddy for something and said buddy decides to take a little revenge and calls the media about the real reason Cam transferred. This, I believe, is not covered under FERPA.

Also, the student that supposedly outed Cam to the professor about the alledged name change on the paper could have said something about it to the media and not be in trouble under FERPA.

But, I don't work in higher-ed and could be totally wrong.
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When a student submits a paper, and later has the prof come to him and ask him why didn't he submit a paper, and then asks the student to look through the stack of papers to see if it's in there, and then the student spots his own paper with somebody else's name on it (which the student wasn't aware had happened), and the student says "That's my paper" - which is how I heard the story - I wouldn't call that 'outing' Cam. It's apparently how Cam got caught, but it's not as if the kid was trying to squeal on somebody. The kid was just trying to find out what happened to his own paper, at the prof's request, since the alert prof wondered why he didn't have one with that kid's name on it.
 
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buxfan4life;1808942; said:
I think someone else may have alluded to this before, but if the "source" was someone close to the situation whom had first hand knowledge of this and is not part of the university staff, then it wouldn't be a violation under FERPA.

Example: Cam tells a buddy he is transferring becasue he got caught cheating; Cam f's over said buddy for something and said buddy decides to take a little revenge and calls the media about the real reason Cam transferred. This, I believe, is not covered under FERPA.

Also, the student that supposedly outed Cam to the professor about the alledged name change on the paper could have said something about it to the media and not be in trouble under FERPA.

But, I don't work in higher-ed and could be totally wrong.
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Good points, and I'm not following this closely enough to be aware of the particulars.

However, in the case of the student who had their paper switched, it wouldn't explain how we found out about the other two situations. Although the "buddy" theory works.
 
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If the paper switch thing is true we are talking about a profoundly stupid human here.

"I'll just put my name on someone elses paper to get a grade and no one will be the wiser".

Really?

That suggests a level of intelligence so low as to make me doubt the stories validity until its confirmed about the 15th time.
 
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Jax, the story is that two of the cheating violations were his putting his own name on someone else's paper, and then the professor told him to turn in his own paper (what? no automatic fail for the class? what professor was this?) he submitted a paper bought off the internet. UF professors routinely do plagiarism checks on papers anyways and would definitely do so in this case. In other words, it's even stupider than you suppose.

The fantastic stupidity involved probably explains everything, actually. I wouldn't be surprised if "Cameron cheated twice and got caught twice on the same damn paper" circulated for a bit among students who had immediate knowledge of it. It's just too dumb to be contained and makes too good a tale of idiocy. Potentially there may not have even been a third (recorded) incident of cheating - stories that circulate in this manner tend to mutate slightly and the magic number of three incidents found in fairy-tales and urban legends tends to be reached.
 
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