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C Seth McLaughlin (All B1G, All-American, 2024 Rimington Award)

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NJ-Buckeye said:
Wondering if this is the fault of the AD. The NFL sent off alarm bells that this specific artificial surface has direct correlations to leg and foot injuries yet OSU did not immediately change the playing surfaces.
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I think OSU absolutely needs to go to grass and it likely already is a negative recruiting pitch from SEC teams.

But artificial turf is correlated more to knee injuries than Achilles. Also, nearly every major college team uses artificial turf for practice (indoor facilities).

I don’t think this injury, during practice, had anything to do with the surface. JMO.

But we should get rid of the artificial turf inside the Horseshoe and go natural.
 
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billmac91 said:
I think OSU absolutely needs to go to grass and it likely already is a negative recruiting pitch from SEC teams.

But artificial turf is correlated more to knee injuries than Achilles. Also, nearly every major college team uses artificial turf for practice (indoor facilities).

I don’t think this injury, during practice, had anything to do with the surface. JMO.

But we should get rid of the artificial turf inside the Horseshoe and go natural.
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OSU has a solid revenue stream from the concerts and events held at the stadium. I would be surprised if they go to grass.

They may look for other turf alternatives than the one they currently have.

Don't see grass happening.
 
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osuvictory1 said:
OSU has a solid revenue stream from the concerts and events held at the stadium. I would be surprised if they go to grass.

They may look for other turf alternatives than the one they currently have.

Don't see grass happening.
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We just watched Northwestern play OSU at Wrigley Field where they grew grass over the diamond for (1) game.

There’s no reason OSU can’t grow a grass field for the football season and move any events at the Horsheshoe to an indoor venue at that time of year.

And to be perfectly frank, it’s absolutely a medical concern. There are 33% more knee ligament tears on artificial turf than grass…….to the point, athletes are now refusing to play on it. I promise, it will start causing OSU to lose athletes if it hasn’t already.

But Seth isn’t correlated to the above, IMO.
 
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billmac91 said:
We just watched Northwestern play OSU at Wrigley Field where they grew grass over the diamond for (1) game.

There’s no reason OSU can’t grow a grass field for the football season and move any events at the Horsheshoe to an indoor venue at that time of year.

And to be perfectly frank, it’s absolutely a medical concern. There are 33% more knee ligament tears on artificial turf than grass…….to the point, athletes are now refusing to play on it. I promise, it will start causing OSU to lose athletes if it hasn’t already.

But Seth isn’t correlated to the above, IMO.
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I get it and tend to agree with you, but I am also pointing out the reason that I would be surprised if it happened. I was in no way arguing in support of a turf field. I can't stand the injuries.

I just think turf will be a constant that the school will not relinquish, especially with the new world where revenue sharing is on the horizon.
 
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billmac91 said:
We just watched Northwestern play OSU at Wrigley Field where they grew grass over the diamond for (1) game.

There’s no reason OSU can’t grow a grass field for the football season and move any events at the Horsheshoe to an indoor venue at that time of year.

And to be perfectly frank, it’s absolutely a medical concern. There are 33% more knee ligament tears on artificial turf than grass…….to the point, athletes are now refusing to play on it. I promise, it will start causing OSU to lose athletes if it hasn’t already.

But Seth isn’t correlated to the above, IMO.
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I don’t disagree, my kid? I was always happier as a dad when he was on grass as opposed to turf. As a coach, the same, but realistically with early season lacrosse, there’s hardly a way to play on grass some times. I can see how the school is in a bit of a bind.

That said, and SIAP, I think that Birm mentioned that he heard Seth say, in Chicago after the NWU game, that his Achilles was tight. It could be that it popped in the WHAC or on turf in Columbus, but it was something that he was, to some extent, aware of and probably nursing before it happened.

I’m still gutted for the kid. And to be completely transparent, I don’t believe that before this year had you told me we would have had a group of guys transfer in and for me to think of them as life long Buckeyes, that I would have believed you. This group — each and every one of them, regardless of how they got here — are a group of guys that will forever have a place in my mind as one of my favorite groups of individuals making a team in my life as Buckeye. Each of them have their own stories and contribute to this place in my mind in their own way. But without question, seeing pics of Seth with his knee on a cart and still being on the field during practice helping coach these guys up will be one of the memories I’ll hold with me after this season is long gone. That, my friends, is what it means to be a Buckeye. THAT is what they talk about when they say brotherhood.

So, not to take away from Seth, but I do think it’s a very relevant point as what we’re seeing here is a direct reflection of the choices, decisions and priorities of this staff; I cannot point to a time in my life where I’ve ever been more pleased with what I’ve seen from the collective product of tOSU football. Have they had greater highs before? Sure. Has there, in my life, ever been a time where all of the tangibles and intangibles have been this high? I don’t think so. We’ve all talked about recognizing the embarrassment of riches and being aware of one of the greatest sustained runs in the history of the sport, but that’s all been tied to on the field product. What we have now is a product that is producing, in spades, on and off the field with the potential to reach the panicle of on-field success as well.

Fuck’n eh… I want to run through a fucking wall for these guys myself. If I see is, there’s no fucking way they don’t. Credit their hard work and the staff steering this ship.

O-mother-fucking-H.
 
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