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C Daniel Giddens (transfer to Alabama, transfer to Vermont)

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I hope people don't expect Giddens to develop a ton. I mean, all he is doing in those highlights is dunking the ball and blocking shots. Not exactly the type of highlight video I look at and say "a lot of raw talent that can be developed if only the coaches knew what they were doing." I've seen him show a little bit of range with his shot, moreso than Amir or Trey, but let's try not to put too high of expectations on this kid's potential just because he's got good physical traits. Not to be negative on Giddens, that is kind of the way a lot of bigs play in the NBA now, just in there to catch lobs and block shots. But my real gripe is I've seen a lot of complaints that the coaches don't develop guys, let's be real about big men generally, you just don't see a lot of centers that develop that back to the basket game anymore. Giddens is coming in to college with a limited skillset, he can do some things very well but to expect him to come into college and develop a high quality back to the basket skillset is unrealistic.
 
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DZ83CK said:
I hope people don't expect Giddens to develop a ton. I mean, all he is doing in those highlights is dunking the ball and blocking shots. Not exactly the type of highlight video I look at and say "a lot of raw talent that can be developed if only the coaches knew what they were doing." I've seen him show a little bit of range with his shot, moreso than Amir or Trey, but let's try not to put too high of expectations on this kid's potential just because he's got good physical traits. Not to be negative on Giddens, that is kind of the way a lot of bigs play in the NBA now, just in there to catch lobs and block shots. But my real gripe is I've seen a lot of complaints that the coaches don't develop guys, let's be real about big men generally, you just don't see a lot of centers that develop that back to the basket game anymore. Giddens is coming in to college with a limited skillset, he can do some things very well but to expect him to come into college and develop a high quality back to the basket skillset is unrealistic.
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@DZ83CK I cannot think of many posters as negative as yourself. If Giddens comes in here and rebounds and plays solid post defense I think the majority of us will be very happy. I really do not care if he develops a back to the basket game or not. Just play solid defense and rebound the ball and be a good team player and I will be very happy.
 
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LitlBuck said:
@DZ83CK I cannot think of many posters as negative as yourself. If Giddens comes in here and rebounds and plays solid post defense I think the majority of us will be very happy. I really do not care if he develops a back to the basket game or not. Just play solid defense and rebound the ball and be a good team player and I will be very happy.
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Exactly right. We have a ton of scorers and shooters on this team we need a beast to roam the middle and command respect. Haven't had anything since Lauderdale and not really dominant since Oden. Any of those comparisons would be awesome for Giddens to shoot for.
 
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Bestbuck36 said:
Exactly right. We have a ton of scorers and shooters on this team we need a beast to roam the middle and command respect. Haven't had anything since Lauderdale and not really dominant since Oden. Any of those comparisons would be awesome for Giddens to shoot for.
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Yeah, and in 2010-2011 the power forward (i.e. Jared Sullinger) out dominated Lauderdale; although Lauderdale did have more blocks.

http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/osu/graphics/pdf/m-baskbl/2010-11.pdf
 
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LitlBuck said:
@DZ83CK I cannot think of many posters as negative as yourself. If Giddens comes in here and rebounds and plays solid post defense I think the majority of us will be very happy. I really do not care if he develops a back to the basket game or not. Just play solid defense and rebound the ball and be a good team player and I will be very happy.
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So are you going to blame the coaches if he doesn't develop? Or criticize posters who claim guys don't develop under Matta that use Giddens as an example? I hope you will be in the latter category.
 
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DZ83CK said:
So are you going to blame the coaches if he doesn't develop? Or criticize posters who claim guys don't develop under Matta that use Giddens as an example? I hope you will be in the latter category.
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That is right. Blame it all on the coaches with regard to a players development. It has nothing to do with the player's effort.
 
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In Amir Williams case, it seems unfathomable to me that in four years, they couldn't teach him to not bring the ball down below his waist to gather himself after an offensive rebound or inside pass. At worst, they could have taken him out of the game every time he did it. Or, they could have had him watch Bill Walton film for 2 hours every time.
 
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NastyNatiBuck said:
I would agree with DZ83CK that there seems to be a trend of guys not getting significantly better under Matta, especially big men. I don't know who to blame, but the problem is there.
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The problem is there so it must be the fault of the HC or one of the assistants. It has nothing to do with the fact that the player reached his potential when he was a senior in high school and that is what we got or maybe the player did not take to coaching that well and just cannot do what he was asked.
 
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cslewis said:
In Amir Williams case, it seems unfathomable to me that in four years, they couldn't teach him to not bring the ball down below his waist to gather himself after an offensive rebound or inside pass. At worst, they could have taken him out of the game every time he did it. Or, they could have had him watch Bill Walton film for 2 hours every time.
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Now those are two excellent teaching methods:lol:
 
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cslewis said:
In Amir Williams case, it seems unfathomable to me that in four years, they couldn't teach him to not bring the ball down below his waist to gather himself after an offensive rebound or inside pass.
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So your working perspective is that they just didn't work on it regularly? That seems pretty unlikely.
At worst, they could have taken him out of the game every time he did it.
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1) Who are you putting in?

2) Confidence and aggression was his biggest problem. Taking him out compounds that problem.
 
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Giddens wins dunk contest

But Williams did not win the dunk contest, which was judged by two students, and Ohio State football players Joshua Perry and Parris Campbell.

The title went to freshman center Daniel Giddens. Giddens didn't do anything flashy, except make his dunk in the finals. Williams couldn't connect on the 360-degree dunk he tried in the finals, which opened the door for Giddens.

Also competing was sophomore Jae'Sean Tate, redshirt freshman Dave Bell and redshirt sophomore Trevor Thompson. Outside of Williams, Bell might have had the best dunk, jumping over 6-foot-1 walk-on guard Joey Lane for a two-hand slam.

You can see videos of Giddens, Tate, Bell and Thompson below.
Is Kam Williams the best leaper in the Big Ten? Highlights from Ohio State's dunk contest, three-point shootout
 
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http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2015/11/daniel_giddens_is_freaking_out.html

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COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Daniel Giddens looked terrified when he walked up to the postgame interview table after Ohio State's 76-54 win over Mount St. Mary's on Sunday.

It was clear he was a first-timer. Giddens, one of five freshmen Ohio State signed in 2015, just finished his first real college game. This was his first real college interview. He leaned in awkwardly to the microphone to add one or two soft-spoken addendums to whatever teammate Jae'Sean Tate said.

That was until Giddens had a question directed at him about how he felt coming into the game.

"I'm not gonna lie, I was nervous. I'm still nervous. This is new to me, I'm sorry," Giddens said.

Nerves before your first game? Understandable. Nerves in the press conference? It can't be that bad.

"I'm freaking out right now," Giddens said.

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