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C Byron 'B.J.' Mullens (Levanga Hokkaido Sapporo - Japan)

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Taosman;1424284; said:
The NBA/college 2 year rule needs to get done. Best thing over all for both college and pros.
And who could blame a kid who had nothing growing up not going as soon as he can? Ready or not.
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Guys like Lebron, Kobe and Dwight Howard have no business being stuck in college for multiple years, it's a waste of their time as a basketball player. I like what baseball does. You can go straight to the pros from high school if you want, BUT if you decide to go to college you have to stay for three years. This would be great for college basketball if it were to happen because then coaches would no longer ever have to go through what Matta does every year dealing with a completely revamped team due to early departures. You know you're getting guys for at least three years and the guys that don't really want to be in college anyway will go straight to the pros and you don't have to deal with them.
 
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Buckeye Nut;1424578; said:
Guys like Lebron, Kobe and Dwight Howard have no business being stuck in college for multiple years, it's a waste of their time as a basketball player. I like what baseball does. You can go straight to the pros from high school if you want, BUT if you decide to go to college you have to stay for three years. This would be great for college basketball if it were to happen because then coaches would no longer ever have to go through what Matta does every year dealing with a completely revamped team due to early departures. You know you're getting guys for at least three years and the guys that don't really want to be in college anyway will go straight to the pros and you don't have to deal with them.
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tough to argue with that post
 
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Buckeye Nut;1424578; said:
Guys like Lebron, Kobe and Dwight Howard have no business being stuck in college for multiple years, it's a waste of their time as a basketball player. I like what baseball does. You can go straight to the pros from high school if you want, BUT if you decide to go to college you have to stay for three years. This would be great for college basketball if it were to happen because then coaches would no longer ever have to go through what Matta does every year dealing with a completely revamped team due to early departures. You know you're getting guys for at least three years and the guys that don't really want to be in college anyway will go straight to the pros and you don't have to deal with them.
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As ridiculous as it sounds, recruiting so many blue-chippers ends up biting you in the ass more often than not...unless you come upon a generational class like the Thad-5. Team chemistry is so important, and when your centerpieces are bolting after one year, that really hinders that development...not to mention depth. Hopefully the two year rule is in place when Jared and DeShaun get here.
 
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LitlBuck;1424337; said:
This is a must-read for anyone. This completely changed my mind as to whether B.J. should be a one and done player. If he does go, I certainly would not hold it against him for what he has gone through just to get where he is today. B.J., you are the man:bow:
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I second that. wow
 
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NFBuck;1424614; said:
As ridiculous as it sounds, recruiting so many blue-chippers ends up biting you in the ass more often than not...unless you come upon a generational class like the Thad-5. Team chemistry is so important, and when your centerpieces are bolting after one year, that really hinders that development...not to mention depth. Hopefully the two year rule is in place when Jared and DeShaun get here.
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I totally agree with what you say about recruiting the blue chippers and what it can do to a basketball program. I was thinking about doing a poll on that below will have to come up with some good wording. Anyhow, I would rather have the three-year baseball rule then a two-year rule. I don't think the two-year rule would allow the players like Lebron and Kobe to go right to the NBA out of high school and that needs to be part of the agreement.

I guess I don't understand why the NBA players are against limiting the number of players coming into their league which one of the two rules mentioned above would do.
 
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LitlBuck;1424986; said:
I guess I don't understand why the NBA players are against limiting the number of players coming into their league which one of the two rules mentioned above would do.
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I don't know exactly why the NBA tries to limit the inflow of new players either. However, it does do a couple of things for them. First, it keep more slots open for proven veteran players. Second, it limits the risks owners must take when taking very young players. Teams get an additional two (or more) years to watch these guys before drafting them which gives the management more to go on when trying to make decisions. Also, it keeps the guys playing basketball without the NBA having to pay them. An 18 or 19 year old kid is going to sit on the bench and draw a paycheck while not really contributing very much to the team (there are notable exceptions of course). On the other hand, that slot could be used by a veteran player who maybe well passed their prime but can offer experienced and competent relief for starters.

I don't really know if anything I've said is an actual reason that the NBA is looking to increase the mandatory wait time between HS and the NBA. I am just speculating.
 
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WyoBuckeye;1425004; said:
I don't know exactly why the NBA tries to limit the inflow of new players either. However, it does do a couple of things for them. First, it keep more slots open for proven veteran players. Second, it limits the risks owners must take when taking very young players. Teams get an additional two (or more) years to watch these guys before drafting them which gives the management more to go on when trying to make decisions. Also, it keeps the guys playing basketball without the NBA having to pay them. An 18 or 19 year old kid is going to sit on the bench and draw a paycheck while not really contributing very much to the team (there are notable exceptions of course). On the other hand, that slot could be used by a veteran player who maybe well passed their prime but can offer experienced and competent relief for starters.

I don't really know if anything I've said is an actual reason that the NBA is looking to increase the mandatory wait time between HS and the NBA. I am just speculating.
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Either I poorly wrote:! my post or you miss understood it. The NBA players had a very difficult time approving the CBA that made kids coming out of high school stay out of the NBA for at least one year and from everything that I have read they do not want to approve a bargaining agreement that would make high school graduates stay out for two years.

I would think that they would want the open slots for their veteran players but there must be more to it than that.
 
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Congrats to BJ on being named to the All-Freshmen Big Ten team, and on being named Sixth Man of the Year by the Coaches.

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All-Freshman Team
Matt Gatens, Iowa
Delvon Roe, Michigan State
William Buford, Ohio State
B.J. Mullens, Ohio State
Lewis Jackson, Purdue

Sixth Player of the Year:
B.J. Mullens, Ohio State
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Time running out? OSU's B.J. Mullens admits frustration with playing time in Big Ten title loss
by Doug Lesmerises/Plain Dealer Reporter
Monday March 16, 2009

COLUMBUS -- Ohio State freshman center B.J. Mullens checked into the Big Ten championship against Purdue with 15:49 left in the first half Sunday. After wiping away one OSU basket with an offensive goaltend, miscommunicating on a post pass from Jon Diebler for a turnover and having Purdue grinder Nemanja Calasan make a hook shot over him, Mullens was out of the game 3:21 later.

As coach Thad Matta stopped and tried to explain something to him along the bench before Mullens sat down, the freshman started walking away, then took a seat with a look of disgust on his face.

And he was gone. The Big Ten's Sixth Man of the Year played just 12 minutes in the 65-61 loss, with three points and two rebounds. While everyone -- Matta, Mullens, other Buckeyes -- saw the frustration, they all had different explanations for it.

"I thought he wasn't flowing out there the way he needed to be," Matta said, "and we picked up on what they were doing there, and we were showing him in timeouts that you have to be here and here, and he was slow to react to it."

Mullens' explanation was simpler: Playing time.

"It's hard to flow when you're not in as much," Mullens said. "I didn't have time to get into the flow of things. Without being in the game -- it's hard when you're getting pulled in and pulled out."


With life as a first-round NBA pick waiting for him, and many observers assuming Mullens will play only one season as a Buckeye, he could be facing his final chance to showcase himself in college. An athletic 7-footer who can beat other centers down the floor in transition, Mullens still has lapses on defense and with his rebounding, and if he's feeling like he's not getting his fair share of court time, he didn't look like a player ready to fight through that on Sunday.

It was a different level of competition, but a year ago OSU freshman center Kosta Koufos was named the NIT's Most Outstanding Player after playing his best basketball of the season and averaging 18.2 ppg in Ohio State's title run. In what looks like another final hurrah, starting Friday in the first round of the NCAA Tournament against Siena (which doesn't start a player taller than 6-foot-8) Mullens could have a major influence on the Buckeyes' fate.

"We've got to find a way to get him the ball," said point guard P.J. Hill, thinking lack of touches led to Mullens' frustration. "We can't go four, five, six, seven possessions without letting the big guys touch it. ... Things didn't go his way and you get frustrated, and in such a big game you've got the pressure of wanting to do well."
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Time running out? OSU's B.J. Mullens admits frustration with playing time in Big Ten title loss - 2009 March Madness | NCAA Basketball Tournament - cleveland.com
 
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I can't blame Matta for not playing the guy. He doesn't owe anything to anyone, B.J. is a great talent, but he is a freshman. He needs to realize that. Matta will give the chance to play, but you have to earn it. How can you teach learning experiences (something that most coaches do over time) when you are called out for doing so? I think the ego's of some of these guys has gotten to be a bit much. It's been documented that BJ has had a hard road. I wish him the best; judging by his comments, I have the feeling that he won't be around for 2009-10.

Sadly, I am having flashbacks of D. Cook a couple of years ago.
 
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