Brady "XLLL" Hoke (Head Coach San Diego State)

[Muck]

He forgot the hyphen. He meant to write, "e-lite".

"Major Powers and me are building an e-lite company of fightin' men. "

"Webster, the only thing you could build is a good case of hemmorhoids."

 

[NFBuck]

ScUM shouldn't recruit an offensive player for 2 years, they are so short on defensive talent. Hoke will make them better on defense in year one.

They need a legit RB badly. Right now, Shart is their best back and he would hardly see the field in Columbus. He's a serviceable back, but nothing special. After him, you have a midget (V. Smith), a guy who apparently walk to the water fountain without getting injured (Toussaint), a guy who hardly saw the field last year (Cox) and a kid w/fumble problems (Hopkins). IMO, their best RB is taking the snaps. Hopkins might be the best real RB on the roster if he can curtail the fumbles, but he's not a "super" and I don't know how his receiving skills are (which are needed in a quasi-WC offense). Losing Dee Hart was probably the biggest blow in the whole firing debacle.

 

[WolverineMike]

we all know that osu is bringing in the elite players and have been for the last 8 or 9 years. To continue to say things like "this guy would barely see the field in c-bus" kind of loses it's luster because you guys can really say about 80% of the kids out there these days.

 

[NFBuck]

we all know that osu is bringing in the elite players and have been for the last 8 or 9 years. To continue to say things like "this guy would barely see the field in c-bus" kind of loses it's luster because you guys can really say about 80% of the kids out there these days.

Well yeah, but when scUM-tOSU was competitive they were pulling equal types of players. That just isn't happening anymore. If scUM wants to level the playing field, they need to go after/get the types of kids that are heading to Columbus. That isn't and hasn't been happening for 3-4 years now. That's precisely my point.

 

[WolverineMike]

gonna take something special for that to happen

 

[germ]

TCU or Wisconsin type players are fine with me. How many more 4 stars did tOSU have over WI?

If Rawls can past his test he will be blue. He's a beast of a back, and has broke all of Ingrams records. Like I said for two weeks Hoke has done well IMO. Better then most of MI fans thought.

 

[NFBuck]

If Rawls can past his test he will be blue. He's a beast of a back, and has broke all of Ingrams records. Like I said for two weeks Hoke has done well IMO. Better then most of MI fans thought.

He's ranked, I think, #104 at his position (RB). More of the same.

 

[germ]

Yeah ranked, lol

Go back and look at ranked players and where they finished. I am always stunned where some are ranked.

 

[germ]

Anyone know what Ingram was ranked and how many stars he had?

 

[Buckeye Nut]

TCU or Wisconsin type players are fine with me. How many more 4 stars did TSIO have over WI?

So you're okay with being good once every three or four years then? You seen any schools in the title game landing those types of recruiting classes? Expectations aren't what they used to be are they.

 

[GoodLifeSean]

Both are three stars according to scout #58 Ingram #77 Rawls. However compare the offer lists. Not saying Rawls isn't a player just that Ingram had a Hell of a lot more intrest.

 

[germ]

Both are three stars according to scout #58 Ingram #77 Rawls. However compare the offer lists. Not saying Rawls isn't a player just that Ingram had a Hell of a lot more intrest.

Ok, Rawls has broke all his records. If he had better grades he would be higher.
I don't think he is going make the grades.
I never said anything about being good every three or four years. I said I like WIS and TCU type recruits. That's all I said.

 

[NFBuck]

Yeah ranked, lol

Go back and look at ranked players and where they finished. I am always stunned where some are ranked.

Again, when you take kids that low, it's rolling the dice. Yes, some of them far exceed expectations, but it's a far lower percentage than the higher rated guys.

Anyone know what Ingram was ranked and how many stars he had?

Again you bring up a guy that "hit". Ingram is a needle in a haystack, an exception, not the rule. I've seen Rawls' film...he's not in Ingram's league. Just because he outperformed him at the HS does not mean he's going to be anywhere near as good as Ingram was in college.

Ok, Rawls has broke all his records. If he had better grades he would be higher.
I don't think he is going make the grades.

Grades are not factored into where kids are ranked. They may effect offer lists, not rankings.

 

[Buckeye Nut]

I never said anything about being good every three or four years. I said I like WIS and TCU type recruits. That's all I said.

I know what you said, but if those are the types of recruits you want then you're only going to be good every few years just like Wisconsin is. You have to recruit elite players to be an elite program. Obviously you're okay with not being elite.

 

[Brady Hoke]

So now I get my marching orders from the media.
That Loserbill guy is crazy. :crazy:
I can't figure this out. . .
If I build a fence around the state of Michigan will that keep the football talent in or out?

Analyst: Michigan football's Brady Hoke must mend fences with high school coaches
Michigan athletic director Dave Brandon only listed a few of his reasons for firing Rich Rodriguez on Jan. 5.
One unspoken reason likely was his poor relationship with high school coaches in the state of Michigan.
Improving that relationship is one of new coach Brady Hoke?s responsibilities, particularly in recruiting.
Brady Hoke's got to restore and enhance some relationships within the state of Michigan that were damaged, to some degree, ... by Rich Rodriguez and his staff, Tom Luginbill, national recruiting director of ESPN Scouts, said during a conference call today.

"The state of Michigan doesn't necessarily produce, year in and year out, the style of player that Rich Rodriguez wanted. So he went elsewhere, and I think that damaged some relationships that needed to be repaired. I don't think there's any question Brady Hoke's aware of it, (and) realizes that he can fix it because of his background and intimate knowledge base of the state and the Midwest.

"There is going to have to be some patience on behalf of Michigan. But I believe (Hoke) ... will embrace Michigan and all that it entails, whether it's boosters, alumni, traditions, embrace everything that Michigan is.

"And that's not necessarily what happened with Rich Rodriguez. So when things didn't go well, he wasn't making any friends along the way.

"It is important to keep a guy like (Traverse City West offensive lineman Jake) Fisher, because he?s an in-state guy, in particular. ... It's a way to start off the process of rehabbing what was a strained relationship between the University of Michigan and the high school coaches within the state."

Fisher was a longtime commit to Rodriguez's staff but has since wavered and is considering schools in addition to U-M.

Luginbill is impressed with what Hoke has done, with six commitments since taking over. National signing day is Feb. 2.

"I don't know if I would say I was surprised, but we have a guy that has an infrastructure in the Midwest, he has an intimate knowledge of the recruiting base, having spent considerable time throughout his coaching career understanding the landscape, not only in the state of Michigan, but Indiana, Illinois, Ohio, Wisconsin and Minnesota," Luginbill said. "He immediately steps in and has credibility. When we look at this class with 16 verbal commitments, I think 'salvage' is a great word."

"You've got two players in the defensive secondary in Delonte Hollowell and Blake Countess that are need positions for Michigan," Luginbill said. "You've got a player in Brennen Beyer in the defensive front that is a need position. And you've got another couple players at the linebacker and defensive end spot. That?s the core that needed to be retained.

"Michigan could stand to lose an offensive guy. They could stand to lose a receiver. What they don?t want to lose is any player who can enhance and upgrade the roster on the defensive side of the football. I think that?s what he was tasked with when he took the job."