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BPCFFB 2008 Season?

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Me thinks my head is spinning...

Cuz I am agreeing with bb36 that it might just be too late to implement the NFL type keeper league. And it seems like it will affect drafting too much. In other words... this is getting more complicated every minute.

Now limiting keepers might be an alternative. If everyone keeps the same number of players, then there is no draft problem for next year. But to me, 4 is too little. I would almost say you have to keep 8-10, and if you can only keep 6 players, then those 2-3 players are made up at the end of the draft.

Gawd... I think I just made my head spin even more.
 
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I have pretty strong opinions about all of this (obviously), but I definitely agree with BN27 that three rounds into the draft is way too late to be implementing anything new. Obviously we need to figure this shit out, but maybe we should just do something basic, and then table this argument until before the draft next year, where we could potentially make some changes.
 
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FKAGobucks877;1213105; said:
I have pretty strong opinions about all of this (obviously), but I definitely agree with BN27 that three rounds into the draft is way too late to be implementing anything new. Obviously we need to figure this shit out, but maybe we should just do something basic, and then table this argument until before the draft next year, where we could potentially make some changes.
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We all do, or at least most of us do. Me, I don't really care as long as we can agree to something and soon as I am close to just "suspending" the draft just to get this done.

But in the end I fully blame BN for wanting to make this a keeper league :biggrin:
 
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Bestbuck36;1213128; said:
I will remember to quote you on this as you look up from the bottom of the standings. :wink2:
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That may be the case...but I'm still right. Why make a rule to save the people who screw up and punish the people who do it right. That's like letting the Royals dictate the rules in the MLB and have it penalize the Red Sox.
It's pointless and ruins the keeper feel of the league.

Also, if the league started now, you'd be at the bottom with 0 points since your players won't play this year...So HA!
 
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Interesting how you say my players wont play this year, I beg to differ. :pirate1:


Also, the rule isnt made to protect people that draft poorly, it would truly penalize people who dont draft well enough to keep a roster from one year to the next. However, if a catastrophic season were to occur like that for someone and awful things can and do occur to these college players, by everyone keeping 4 or 5 players on the roster it doesnt dig a 9 or 10 player hole for someone if the worst happens. Granted if you draft 15-18 players like we're going to and cant keep at least 4 for the next season you dont belong in this type league anyways. Those examples are merely hypothetical and worst case scenario.

The (4) I threw out there was just an arbitrary number if everyone agrees to a different number I'm perfectly ok with that. Lets just agree on something soon before everyone picks and we have to start all over next year.
 
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Who else is in a keeper league? Piney and BN, anyone else? I'm willing to abide by their decision/opinion, since they've done this in the past and should have a better idea of how and what will work the best. The only thing I'd ask is that we all agree to keep this open for the next year or two...that way, if something we decide now (while we're "under the gun") ends up being a monumental issue, we can change it once we've had a draft/season or two under our belts and everyone else has some keeper league experience.
 
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FKAGobucks877;1213146; said:
Who else is in a keeper league? Piney and BN, anyone else? I'm willing to abide by their decision/opinion, since they've done this in the past and should have a better idea of how and what will work the best. The only thing I'd ask is that we all agree to keep this open for the next year or two...that way, if something we decide now (while we're "under the gun") ends up being a monumental issue, we can change it once we've had a draft/season or two under our belts and everyone else has some keeper league experience.
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I'm in the same league as Piney and BN..While the league is far from perfect (the best team gets the No. 1 pick) I really think the lose draft picks at the end of the round works the best. It just makes sense.
 
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FKAGobucks877;1213146; said:
Who else is in a keeper league? Piney and BN, anyone else?
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That is how we got into that mess. While BN/Niagara & Myself are in one league, another person is in a different league that has been together for 12 years. (I can't recall who and too lazy to check back in the thread)

BN/me's league you lose your last picks in the draft. But the other league uses the opposite manner.

I did post a link to an example of BN & my's league's draft to show an example of the type of players available.
 
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I don't understand the concern people are having about losing your end picks. If somebody wanted to list why they don't like that (with examples or something that a tard like me can understand), it might help. I'm not dead set on losing the end picks (not that it even matters what I'm set on anyways). I'm willing to change my opinion of somebody explained the benefits of losing the picks at the beginning. I just think people are overestimating the quality of picks that are going to be available next year.

In the league me, piney, and my bro are in, Jeremy Maclin went undrafted the year before so he was available this year. If that league used a method to have the team with the worst record pick first.....that would've made sense. He would go to a crappy team and that would be fine. The next guy was Harvey Unga from Utah. I'm sure you can understand why he was available. After that....you're pretty much picking Fr and So who are expected to do well, or Jr and Sr who finally turned it on/are good but not great. I don't see where somebody is going to be able to restock their team.
 
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BuckeyeNation27;1213258; said:
I don't understand the concern people are having about losing your end picks. If somebody wanted to list why they don't like that (with examples or something that a tard like me can understand), it might help. I'm not dead set on losing the end picks (not that it even matters what I'm set on anyways). I'm willing to change my opinion of somebody explained the benefits of losing the picks at the beginning. I just think people are overestimating the quality of picks that are going to be available next year.

In the league me, piney, and my bro are in, Jeremy Maclin went undrafted the year before so he was available this year. If that league used a method to have the team with the worst record pick first.....that would've made sense. He would go to a crappy team and that would be fine. The next guy was Harvey Unga from Utah. I'm sure you can understand why he was available. After that....you're pretty much picking Fr and So who are expected to do well, or Jr and Sr who finally turned it on/are good but not great. I don't see where somebody is going to be able to restock their team.
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I don't think there's any real issue doing it that way. I just think it would be more interesting if it was a difficult decision as to whether or not to keep a guy.
 
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I've never done this, so I'm speculating, but the way I see it is like this:

After this year's draft, everyone is going to have 18 players on their roster. Next year, pre-draft, everyone is going to have a different amount of players left, depending on graduation, early NFL entry, etc. So let's say I have 12 players left, and you have 9. Of my twelve, I think I can improve in some areas, so I only keep 9. You decide to only keep 6. I am assuming that means that I have 9 guys I think are premiere talent, and you have 6 (in other words, these players are top 4 - 5 round talent). If we both draft in the first round, I'm getting the same quality that you are. Hence, my team will be better than yours this year, because now I have at least 12 guys that are premiere talent, but you only have 9.

Obviously, you're experienced at fantasy, and it may well be that after round one or two, there won't be any premiere talent available in next year's draft. But I'm assuming there will be, because, if nothing else, there are incoming All-American freshman, along with the breakout soph's and upper-classmen. Either way, it seems to me that the teams with the most people returning are going to be loaded, and the teams that lost a bunch (whether that's this year, or in three years) won't be able to compete. And if they're taking players that aren't "elite" this year (and they won't have any choice, since all of the premiere talent will be gone in three rounds if everybody is picking in those rounds), they aren't really going to get any better in years to come, because everyone is taking the "elite" players, even the guys that have a shitload of "elite" players returning.
 
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I think we should put it to a vote. Have everyones vote be public...majority rules...with the option of revoting next year and any year after.

I dont think anyone would object to any rule if it's majority. Even me and my bro, who have been vocal, won't really care, as long as its voted on and over with.

Thoughts?
 
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Niagara_Tressel;1213340; said:
I think we should put it to a vote. Have everyones vote be public...majority rules...with the option of revoting next year and any year after.

I dont think anyone would object to any rule if it's majority. Even me and my bro, who have been vocal, won't really care, as long as its voted on and over with.

Thoughts?
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Choices are:

A. Lose a pick for each kept player, starting at round 1 and losing the pick in each successive round for each player kept. (Keep 6 players, lose your pick in rounds 1-6)
B. Lose a pick for each kept player, starting at round 18 and losing the pick in each prior round for each player kept. Keep 6 players, lose your pick in rounds 13-18)
C. Lose a pick for each kept player in the round corresponding to the round in which the kept player was drafted.



NOTE - For choice C, we'd still have to figure out how to handle kept players that were added mid-season.


My vote is for option C.
 
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