BPCFFB 2008 Season?

[Niagara_Tressel]

Choices are:

A. Lose a pick for each kept player, starting at round 1 and losing the pick in each successive round for each player kept. (Keep 6 players, lose your pick in rounds 1-6)
B. Lose a pick for each kept player, starting at round 18 and losing the pick in each prior round for each player kept. Keep 6 players, lose your pick in rounds 13-18)
C. Lose a pick for each kept player in the round corresponding to the round in which the kept player was drafted.

I vote for B
A:0
B:1
C:1

NOTE - For choice C, we'd still have to figure out how to handle kept players that were added mid-season.

An idea for this would be that you would lose two draft picks at the end of the draft. That would help limit ppl from tanking and dropping SRs and picking up FR in the waining weeks.
Just a thought

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

I vote for B
A:0
B:1
C:1



An idea for this would be that you would lose two draft picks at the end of the draft. That would help limit ppl from tanking and dropping SRs and picking up FR in the waining weeks.
Just a thought

Agreed on taking the draft picks from the bottom rounds for keeping mid-season additions.

 

[Piney]

I've never done this, so I'm speculating, but the way I see it is like this:

After this year's draft, everyone is going to have 18 players on their roster. Next year, pre-draft, everyone is going to have a different amount of players left, depending on graduation, early NFL entry, etc. So let's say I have 12 players left, and you have 9. Of my twelve, I think I can improve in some areas, so I only keep 9. You decide to only keep 6. I am assuming that means that I have 9 guys I think are premiere talent, and you have 6 (in other words, these players are top 4 - 5 round talent). If we both draft in the first round, I'm getting the same quality that you are. Hence, my team will be better than yours this year, because now I have at least 12 guys that are premiere talent, but you only have 9.

But you are also assuming that your 9 guys are better than the 6 "I" keep. So those 6 I keep could all be Top 20 performers. Then on top of that I get to pick 3 times before you even pick once. Having more keepers doesn't mean better players.

This also throws out the worst teams pick first aspect of drafting. So now in reality the team that keeps the least amount of players gets to pick first. And who cares if that person is the defending champion or returns the best players.

Another aspect is what if that player kept 3-4 players less than anyone else. Then they get to pick 3-4 players before anyone else has the chance?

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

This is all too complicated.... whatever you guys figure out is fine with me. FWIW, my vote is A

 

[Piney]

I vote for B
A:0
B:1
C:1

After further thought I will also vote for Option B.

Also, Sparky did give me his vote (as I was emailing him yesterday regarding this). His choice is also Option B. So to update the totals...

A: 1
B: 3
C: 1

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

I don't think there's any real issue doing it that way. I just think it would be more interesting if it was a difficult decision as to whether or not to keep a guy.

I didn't think of it that way....which makes sense. I don't want things made more difficult for me though

I've never done this, so I'm speculating, but the way I see it is like this:

After this year's draft, everyone is going to have 18 players on their roster. Next year, pre-draft, everyone is going to have a different amount of players left, depending on graduation, early NFL entry, etc. So let's say I have 12 players left, and you have 9. Of my twelve, I think I can improve in some areas, so I only keep 9. You decide to only keep 6. I am assuming that means that I have 9 guys I think are premiere talent, and you have 6 (in other words, these players are top 4 - 5 round talent). If we both draft in the first round, I'm getting the same quality that you are. Hence, my team will be better than yours this year, because now I have at least 12 guys that are premiere talent, but you only have 9.

I see the point here.....but that's the penalty of not drafting as well as the other guy. That's how I see it, anyway.

Obviously, you're experienced at fantasy, and it may well be that after round one or two, there won't be any premiere talent available in next year's draft. But I'm assuming there will be, because, if nothing else, there are incoming All-American freshman, along with the breakout soph's and upper-classmen. Either way, it seems to me that the teams with the most people returning are going to be loaded, and the teams that lost a bunch (whether that's this year, or in three years) won't be able to compete. And if they're taking players that aren't "elite" this year (and they won't have any choice, since all of the premiere talent will be gone in three rounds if everybody is picking in those rounds), they aren't really going to get any better in years to come, because everyone is taking the "elite" players, even the guys that have a shitload of "elite" players returning.

I think this is the only part where I disagree with FKA and others. I really don't expect there to be that much elite talent. You can barely field a competitive team with the first round of our draft from this year in the other league.
QB - Todd Reesing
RB - Harvey Unga
RB - Darrell Scott
WR - Jeremy Maclin
WR - Juaquin Iglesias

A team of second round players
QB - Adam Weber
RB - Arian Foster
RB - Josh Adams
WR - Marcus Barnett
WR - Byrd/Johnson/Brown/Jordan Shipley?

I'm already running out of guys who could start.....and this draft pool includes the MWC and CUSA.


Pryor and Darrell Scott are already gone in this league and they haven't even done any PRACTICES in college. These two guys won't be available next year when it's time to pick the breakout sophomores. Guys just like them won't be available next year because they'll be taken this year. I could very well be wrong.....but I'd say you're going to be able to draft from a pool of maybe 3 or 4 guys who are fantasy stars, then 3 or 4 more who are guys like Aaron Kelley. The rest will be serviceable guys like Brian Hartline who will give you 10 points a week, and incoming freshman who you hope live up to the hype.

In the end I'll have fun with this no matter what is chosen......as I'm sure everybody else will, too. I see a vote has started, so I'll weigh in.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

B for me

A: 1
B: 4
C: 1

 

[Piney]

I think this is the only part where I disagree with FKA and others. I really don't expect there to be that much elite talent. You can barely field a competitive team with the first round of our draft from this year in the other league.

And keep in mind, that league does not allow players to be picked up during the season like this one. And one reason I included a cap of 2 players that are picked up during the season that can be kept.

In theory the "bad" teams this year can almost get a head start with picking up 2 young players that could help them next season.

 

[FKAGobucks877]

C for me.

A: 1
B: 4
C: 2

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

I didn't think of it that way....which makes sense. I don't want things made more difficult for me though I see the point here.....but that's the penalty of not drafting as well as the other guy. That's how I see it, anyway.

I think this is the only part where I disagree with FKA and others. I really don't expect there to be that much elite talent. You can barely field a competitive team with the first round of our draft from this year in the other league.
QB - Todd Reesing
RB - Harvey Unga
RB - Darrell Scott
WR - Jeremy Maclin
WR - Juaquin Iglesias

A team of second round players
QB - Adam Weber
RB - Arian Foster
RB - Josh Adams
WR - Marcus Barnett
WR - Byrd/Johnson/Brown/Jordan Shipley?

I'm already running out of guys who could start.....and this draft pool includes the MWC and CUSA.


Pryor and Darrell Scott are already gone in this league and they haven't even done any PRACTICES in college. These two guys won't be available next year when it's time to pick the breakout sophomores. Guys just like them won't be available next year because they'll be taken this year. I could very well be wrong.....but I'd say you're going to be able to draft from a pool of maybe 3 or 4 guys who are fantasy stars, then 3 or 4 more who are guys like Aaron Kelley. The rest will be serviceable guys like Brian Hartline who will give you 10 points a week, and incoming freshman who you hope live up to the hype.

In the end I'll have fun with this no matter what is chosen......as I'm sure everybody else will, too. I see a vote has started, so I'll weigh in.

At the same time, there's no more elite talent for next year because everybody can keep as many players as they want on no cost. If you had to give something valuable up to keep a player, there would be a lot more talent back in the draft pool.

Hell, the draft is one of my favorite parts of fantasy football and it feels like
it's going to pretty tedious and stupid from now on with people just adding a bunch of incoming freshman, hoping they pan out.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

At the same time, there's no more elite talent for next year because everybody can keep as many players as they want on no cost. If you had to give something valuable up to keep a player, there would be a lot more talent back in the draft pool.

Hell, the draft is one of my favorite parts of fantasy football and it feels like
it's going to pretty tedious and stupid from now on with people just adding a bunch of incoming freshman, hoping they pan out.

Win

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Win

You just drafted Taylor Potts

 

[Piney]

You just drafted Taylor Potts

And watch Harrell go down in practice or the first game and then BkB wins...

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

You just drafted Taylor Potts

Don't blame me for being wise.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

Is this the correct schedule:

9/6 - 11/15: 11 regular season games
11/22: Round 1 playoffs
Bowls games: Finals of playoffs