Boise State 33, Virginia Tech 30 (final)

[BayBuck]

Well, Florida State started out as a nursing college, didn't have football until 1947, didn't hit the big time until 1979, and now they are one of the most renowned programs in the sport.

Same thing with Boise State - maybe they are not quite "there" yet, but they are well on their way, and ahead of schedule. To dismiss them so cavalierly is short-sighted, to say the least.

We'll see what happens if/when Chris Petersen goes back home to coach in California for twice the money x number of years down the line. He was obviously the secret to Boise's success under Hawkins, and even in the MWC Boise could have trouble paying the $3M a BCS regular deserves. It's been a good run in the WAC, and a truly great transition from the lower-division, but there's still a long way to go for the upstarts from Idaho.

 

[MaxBuck]

Boise State =

 

[JBaney45]

9-3 is really generous. Boise doesn't have the depth behind their starters that top-tier Big Ten teams have. They would do what Michigan did last year and probably will do again this year, start out strong but finish the season badly as their starters run out of gas.

The Boise State D looked exhausted at times against VT, and their coaching staff did not take advantage. They were snapping the ball with 20+ seconds left on the play clock with the lead and 2-3 minutes left in the game FFS! There's no way Tressel would lose that game with the VT roster.

I see 2 or 3 wins in conference on that SEC schedule. Now if they had a couple months to prepare for each game, and came in completely healthy, maybe 8-4.

Not buying this at all.

Yea Boise's starters were exhausted, it's the first game of the year playing a tough team, they didn't get to start out with some patsy they were thrown right into the mix against a top flight team.

I see nothing out of the SEC that leads me to believe Boise couldn't compete and win there, it obviously takes some things to go your way to go undefeated, but to say Boise COULDN'T I just don't see any proof. When you have a team that experienced on both sides of the ball you have a chance against anybody. Yeah you can say that if people get injured they'd be in trouble but guess what? So would pretty much every team, look what happened to Oklahoma when they had guys go down last year. I don't see any TEAM in the SEC that's obviously better then Boise.

I'll say it again if their are teams from BCS conferences that go undefeated then obviously they are going to jump Boise, if there aren't 2 teams that handle their business go ahead and put an undefeated Boise ahead of a 1 loss team from another conference. Once you lose a game you have no right to bitch about not making the title game, and in terms of Boise they could either get shut up on the national stage or they could prove to everyone how good of a team they are.

 

[woofermazing]

Not buying this at all.

Yea Boise's starters were exhausted, it's the first game of the year playing a tough team, they didn't get to start out with some patsy they were thrown right into the mix against a top flight team.

I see nothing out of the SEC that leads me to believe Boise couldn't compete and win there, it obviously takes some things to go your way to go undefeated, but to say Boise COULDN'T I just don't see any proof. When you have a team that experienced on both sides of the ball you have a chance against anybody. Yeah you can say that if people get injured they'd be in trouble but guess what? So would pretty much every team, look what happened to Oklahoma when they had guys go down last year. I don't see any TEAM in the SEC that's obviously better then Boise.

I'll say it again if their are teams from BCS conferences that go undefeated then obviously they are going to jump Boise, if there aren't 2 teams that handle their business go ahead and put an undefeated Boise ahead of a 1 loss team from another conference. Once you lose a game you have no right to bitch about not making the title game, and in terms of Boise they could either get shut up on the national stage or they could prove to everyone how good of a team they are.

So say we beat everyone except...Indiana. Miami does well in the ACC, Iowa is the runner up in the Big Ten, and Wisconsin is 9-3. That is less impressive than an undefeated Boise's two game season?

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Well, Florida State started out as a nursing college, didn't have football until 1947, didn't hit the big time until 1979, and now they are one of the most renowned programs in the sport.

Same thing with Boise State - maybe they are not quite "there" yet, but they are well on their way, and ahead of schedule. To dismiss them so cavalierly is short-sighted, to say the least.

There's a difference between dismissing them and wanting them to earn it like the rest of the BCS schools have to do.

For once I'd like to see a team play Boise and not shit the bed.

 

[buckeyes_rock]

Ok, so let's look at their schedule:

@Virginia Tech
@ Wyoming
Oregon St
@ New Mexico St
Toledo
@San Jose St
La Tech
Hawaii
@Idaho
Fresno St
@Nevada
Utah St

There are two opponents on here that are decent in V Tech and Oregon St. Imagine how well rested our Buckeyes would be with this schedule. I mean seriously...how can you compare the rigors of the Big Ten or SEC with this ridiculouslness? Boise pulled out a nice win last night. But you can't rest on one real game. I don't know...I just don't get it.

Boise will have basically their whole season to rest up and prepare for a BCS game. To a team like Ohio State, the last nine games of this schedule would be a chance for our starters to play a half and all the backups and even third stringers to get some game action.

So Boise moves to the MWC next season? At least there's a few teams that are decent over there, but still not close... and Utah and BYU are leaving anway.

Boise beat OK in the Fiesta Bowl back in 2006. And that was a gimmicky offense and a less than enthusiastic OK team. It was great, but it was a shocker to the college football world. So since then, they've beaten Washington (2007), Oregon (2008), Oregon (2009) and now V Tech (2010). Beating one major conference team per year now makes them a "real" national championship contender? It's just comical.

 

[Saw31]

The Big 12 (10) has an opening or two...

 

[LordJeffBuck]

There's a difference between dismissing them and wanting them to earn it like the rest of the BCS schools have to do.

For once I'd like to see a team play Boise and not shit the bed.

So that's it ... Boise State is spiking their opponents' Gatorade with Ex-lax....

Seriously, though, I think that your comment explains much of the anti-Boise sentiment - Buckeye fans are afraid that our team will "shit the bed" if we ever have to face them (in a BCS bowl game, for example).

 

[JBaney45]

So say we beat everyone except...Indiana. Miami does well in the ACC, Iowa is the runner up in the Big Ten, and Wisconsin is 9-3. That is less impressive than an undefeated Boise's two game season?

Don't lose to Indiana or anyone else if you want to play for the championship. You have to take care of your business if you want to complain. Until you have a playoff you never know if your getting the most "deserving" champion, maybe 1 year having 3 losses in the Big Ten was tougher then cruising through the Big 12 undefeated, you never really know.

No they don't play a great schedule, but they still have to take care of their business. They'll essentially have had to go undefeated for 2 seasons to make the title game once. Let em play for it if there isn't other undefeated teams, worst thing that can happen is they get blown out which we've seen before anyway.

They beat TCU last season in the BCS (not their fault they didn't get to play a bcs conference team in that case), they beat an Oregon team that won the Pac 10 last year. They have a chance to play an Oregon State team that should contend and could possibly win the Pac 10, they played a Virginia Tech team that should do very well in the ACC

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

No, I just want them to play a team that doesn't give it to them....which is what Oregon and VTech did. They looked better against VTech than they did against Oregon (which isn't saying much), but they still didn't look like they deserve to play for a title. I'd say they don't deserve to play for a BCS game but the ACC and Big East prevent me from doing so.

 

[FCollinsBuckeye]

Seriously, though, I think that your comment explains much of the anti-Boise sentiment

I think the anti-Boise sentiment can be summed up as follows:

WAC<MAC<CUSA<Mtn.West<BCS Conferences

Or something like that.

Their conference is littered with 'cupcake' teams that BCS schools are sometimes criticized for playing OOC.

That being said, they looked solid last night.

 

[TheIronColonel]

Look, let me just say this: if Boise played a schedule that featured 4-6 ACTUAL games against breathing competition, and they still did well, I'd change my story in an instant. But they don't. Boise State could very well do what Florida, Miami and Florida State did: build their programs over an extended period of time into power teams. But running ramshackle through the Big Sky or whatever shitty conference they're in is completely different. Teams like Utah do it the right way: build teams that are solid for a long time, build a strong university, and then jump to the big time. Boise hasn't done that - they still could, but they haven't yet.

 

[3074326]

I feel like any team that goes undefeated, doesn't matter the conference, should have the same chance of playing in a national championship game as anyone else. Boise St or Alabama or Ohio State...if they all go undefeated, they should each have an equal opportunity to play for all the marbles.

BSU should have an equal opportunity to play in a title game because they went undefeated and beat one top 10 team, but Alabama and OSU go undefeated and probably beat at least one top 10 team and probably 3-5 other top 25 teams?

Makes perfect sense.

 

[Gatorubet]

Getting up for one or two games is relatively easy. Kudos for their winning when they had to, but after an emotional win, with some bruises and a mental hangover, who does Boise have to face the next week? A Miami? Even a USF? They play a conference regular, Wyoming. Last year Wyo started OK, but then finished with Air Force, Utah, BYU and TCU during a five-game stretch. The mighty Cowboys were outscored 129-20 those five weeks, and were shut out by Air Force and BYU.

Florida stunk up the place last week but we were playing a Wyo type team. So we stunk and won the game anyway. If during the Uf season we had a physical game the week before and showed up the next week for a conference game with some starters missing ( or a bad mental attitude because of a let down from a big victory the week before) and we played like week one, we would get our asses handed to us.

These guys get a big win in a physical game and face a conference game the next week that is essentially a guaranteed win. To put it simply, they have not earned the right to be considered a big boy because they do not have to face big boy challenges and big boy competition week after week, including weeks where the top ten team you play had an extra week to prepare for you. Let them achieve in that environment and I will consider them an equal. Or let them punk some national power and maybe I will give them more props. But beating V Tech was not an OHMYGOD!!!Eleventyone!!!! victory. A good win, to be sure, and kudos their way, but nothing about that makes them a Top five BCS team. They are, IMO, like Ohio's BCS team. Capable of one-hit wonders, but not a sustained season against top talent.

And lose their current coach, and then have a bad recruiting season, and they are back to MAC status with a much higher climb back than a Bama or UF ....or even a bad SkunkBear program.

BCSCG material??? No F-ing way.

 

[OSUScoonie12]

So you would consider Utah a big time program now that they are joining the Pac-10? Let's look at their schedule this year:

vs Pittsburgh
vs UNLV
@ New Mexico
vs San Jose St
@ Iowa St
@ Wyoming
vs Colorado St
@ Air Force
vs #4 TCU
@ Notre Dame
@ San Diego St
vs BYU

I'm not seeing that much more of a "harder" schedule for Utah then Boise St. Since 2002, Utah is 74-25 (4 10+ win seasons) with 2 undefeated seasons while Boise St is 94-11 (7 10+ win seasons) with 2 undefeated seasons. In my mind Boise St has built up a stronger program over the past 8-10 years then what Utah has. You also have to remember BSU joined D-1A in 1996 while Utah has had a very long time to build up a program.