Boise State 17, TCU 10 (final) Fiesta Bowl

[Bucklion]

I sort of fall in the middle of everyone's annoyance (or lack thereof) I guess personally. I see Boise State as the Gonzaga of football. The Zags spent a couple of years as everyone's small conference tournament darling...and then I found myself hoping for them to lose because I was tired of the glass slipper bullshit. That all culminated with the whole Adam Morrison crying fiasco. Now, they've settled in as a team that everyone pretty much expects will be good, so the whole Cinderella thing doesn't really apply to them anymore in most contexts. So too shall it be with Boise State I think, though I guess the whole BCS inequality makes the "small conference" deal more enduring than it needs to be. I dunno, I don't love 'em, I don't really hat 'em, I just wish they'd be judged like everyone else is by the media and leave it at that.

 

[LordJeffBuck]

Didn't watch much of the game, but the overall lack of speed on both teams was noticeable after watching multi-loss, mid-pack BCS teams like Oklahoma, Mississippi and LSU display speed in ample quantities. Neither BSU nor TCU in their current incarnation could, IMO, finish a season above .500 if they played in the SEC, ACC, Big Ten or Pac 10.

Yeah, they beat the Pac 10 champ and the #3 team in the country, so obviously they'd have difficulty with Indiana, Purdue, Northwestern, Illinois, Michigan, Michigan State, and Minnesota. You should send your resume` off to ESPN.

By the way, that was Boise State's second BCS bowl victory, which is exactly the same number of wins as Michigan, Notre Dame, Penn State, and Alabama ... combined.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

Is it wrong of me to think that chick was even hotter when crying?

Hell no. Everyone knows that a lap dance is better when the stripper is crying. Or lactating.

I'm not clicking a Facebook link, so excuse me if this is what the link above me says.......apparently the cowbell girl is blind.

See you all in Hell everybody! :2004:

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

After all of this attention, she'll probably get a guest appearance on Letterman.

I can see that... *rimshot*

I think Boise State is a legit team that happens to be stuck in a shit conference...they've played exceptionally on defense in both their big games. I do think that their offense is not nearly as potent as their pre-bowl stats of 460 ypg (#7 nationally) and 44+ ppg (#1 nationally) would suggest...they were held to 19 points at home by Oregon and 10 offensive points by TCU (#1 in total defense) yesterday. I'd like to think we'd beat them in a plus-one game, but I know they'd get us as much of a game as Oregon did, if not more. In my mind, they are indeed a legit top-10 team and would have no problem with them being ranked (slightly) ahead of us.

 

[Gatorubet]

Slightly different topic ... If the winner of the Alabama-Texas game is #1 in the country, and the loser is #2, then who is #3? A 13-1 Florida team with one win over a top-10 opponent (Cincinnati) and one win over a top-20 opponent (LSU) and a very bad loss in the SEC championship game ... or a 14-0 Boise State with two wins over top-10 opponents (Oregon and TCU) and eleven wins over patsies? I say that it's a very close call....

It would not be an injustice to rank them about UF. But our victory over a higher ranked UC was more impressive than their's was over TCU. I guess I'm saying that I'd still give us "bonus points" by virtue of having the higher rated schedule, and a "benefit of the doubt" bump because of two recent BCSNC.

Just like a veteran's preference when applying for Civil Service jobs, it may be unfair to the other guy, but it is based upon a premise that rewards prior work and attributes some of that past excellence to the present.

 

[Dryden]

It would not be an injustice to rank them about UF. But our victory over a higher ranked UC was more impressive than their's was over TCU. I guess I'm saying that I'd still give us "bonus points" by virtue of having the higher rated schedule, and a "benefit of the doubt" bump because of two recent BCSNC.

Just like a veteran's preference when applying for Civil Service jobs, it may be unfair to the other guy, but it is based upon a premise that rewards prior work and attributes some of that past excellence to the present.

I just read your post twice and all I got out of it was, nom nom nom Tim Tebow nom nom nom

 

[scarletngray]

My wife has a relative that starts on Boise States D and so I've seen them play quite a bit. I agree with Mili that they are a legit top 10 team. Methinks that the final top 5 will be: (At least these would be my picks)

1) Winner of the Bama/Texas game
2) Boise State
3) Florida
4) Loser of the Bama/Texas game
5) Ohio State

:osu:

The Ohio State Buckeyes - 2010 Rose Bowl Champs

 

[BigWoof31]

My wife has a relative that starts on Boise States D and so I've seen them play quite a bit. I agree with Mili that they are a legit top 10 team. Methinks that the final top 5 will be: (At least these would be my picks)

1) Winner of the Bama/Texas game
2) Boise State
3) Florida
4) Loser of the Bama/Texas game
5) Ohio State

:osu:

The Ohio State Buckeyes - 2010 Rose Bowl Champs

If Texas were to win - it might be tough to have Florida ranked higher than Bama given the SEC championship game result?

 

[MaxBuck]

Yeah, they beat the Pac 10 champ and the #3 team in the country, so obviously they'd have difficulty with Indiana, Purdue, Northwestern, Illinois, Michigan, Michigan State, and Minnesota. You should send your resume` off to ESPN.

By the way, that was Boise State's second BCS bowl victory, which is exactly the same number of wins as Michigan, Notre Dame, Penn State, and Alabama ... combined.

Man, nothing like arguing a point I never tried to make.

Look, Boise has a very good mid-major team, but that's what they are. Do I think they'd do much better than .500 playing nobody but Michigan State every week? Not really, especially if their blue unis - blue turf advantage were outlawed as it should be. Nobody else in college football plays in camouflage, so I think Boise should be prevented from doing so.

Yes, Boise beat a couple of good teams, after which they played a bunch of stiffs. It's easier to get up for two games a season than it is for 11. I think that's evident.

Do you seriously believe that Boise has sufficient team speed to compete for league champion in a BCS conference?

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

Yes, Boise beat a couple of good teams, after which they played a bunch of stiffs. It's easier to get up for two games a season than it is for 11. I think that's evident.

And beyond that, it's easier to survive bad performances when they are against Louisiana Tech, UC-Davis, or Tulsa rather than Purdue, Illinois, or Minnesota

I disagree that Boise would have been .500 in the Big Ten, but I don't believe they'd be undefeated either....

 

[3074326]

.....she's not going to see this anyways....

 

[MaxBuck]

And beyond that, it's easier to survive bad performances when they are against ... UC-Davis ...

Hey. Don't knock the Fighting Winemakers. Their secret weapon is a seemingly unobtrusive yet surprisingly powerful little Viognier that can knock the competition for a loop.

 

[BuckStruck]

Man, nothing like arguing a point I never tried to make.

Look, Boise has a very good mid-major team, but that's what they are. Do I think they'd do much better than .500 playing nobody but Michigan State every week? Not really, especially if their blue unis - blue turf advantage were outlawed as it should be. Nobody else in college football plays in camouflage, so I think Boise should be prevented from doing so.

Yes, Boise beat a couple of good teams, after which they played a bunch of stiffs. It's easier to get up for two games a season than it is for 11. I think that's evident.

Do you seriously believe that Boise has sufficient team speed to compete for league champion in a BCS conference?

It's not that we believe Boise has a team sufficient enough team to compete for league champ in the BCS Conference, It's that we believe they deserve a shot.

Two undefeated seasons, giving TCU more than they could handle (take in mind not many believed BSU could take on TCU).

They may very well not be able to compete, but if they never get to try we'll never know, but if they can, wont that be exciting !

Also, think about the recruits they will be getting now, many great high school players would love to go to a two-season-undefeated team.

Good job Boise

 

[Steve19]

Not to divert the discussion, but is this girl really blind. If so, then I think my post and a few others are in pretty bad taste.

 

[Kickdown02]

It's being reported that she is legally blind.