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Bitching about the 2004 Season

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ohiobuck94 said:
One word: Tressel :(
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:smash: :tic: :boohoo: :smash:

buckeyebri said:
That OSU has to Elite 11 quarterbacks and we can't do shit on offense?
Michigan has freshman QB and a freshman running back and they can score points.
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Michigan has a few more experienced linemen and a few really really good Wr's who runs great routes consistently. Not that we don't have the same talent. Justin doesn't have as solid an Offensive line yet and or supporting cast.

Also If you look at that freshman QB's stats in comparrison to Justins, you'll find that statement is in error with regards to the amount of Td's he's thrown and yardage. Maybe a little more but not crazy ahead of OSU.
 
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Let's throw recruiting in the mix. In particular, OL and RB recruiting. I'll keep this short and just talk about the OL.

It was pretty clear we needed to start filling the pipeline to replace the upper classmen on OL the second JT got the job. He landed two reruits his first year - Ryan Cook and Adam Olds. Bottom line, when we most needed help to position us for this season, we got zero.

2002 was much better. Five OL lead by one super stud - Derek Morris. Well, we know the punch line to that joke, but that left Mangold, Sims, Datish, and Downing. What expectations should we have from those guys? If you listen to the gurus it goes like this. Last year and so far this year we have landed five OL rated in the top 25 in the country. The 2002 class without Morris included nobody ranked in the top 35.

Granted Sims and Mangold have turned out pretty good. But these two third year players (as opposed to the fourth and fifth year players that commonly lead your OL) are flanked by a formerr walk-on, a redshirt Soph and a convereted DL. This is not a firm foundation for high expectations.

(I must confess that this does not explain why we have not had a better OL the past two years when we had the experience and guys who are good enough for the NFL.)

Of course, we could change QBs and solve the problem that way.
 
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Well the game planning hasn't been the best, but Zwick hasn't been effecient nor has he executed like an Elite 11 should. Troy Smith hasn't got a shot, but when he was in I liked what I saw. Just a combo of bad calls once in a while and more then often bad execution.
 
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Depends on who you ask. Rivals had him rated real high (#6 OT, top 75 overall) while Insiders had him in the 40's just for OL's. Mangold was similar.

tibor75 said:
"The 2002 class without Morris included nobody ranked in the top 35."

Huh? I'm pretty sure Datish was a top level recruit. He just hasn't played like one.
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Oh8ch said:
The 2002 class without Morris included nobody ranked in the top 35.
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That would be the first time I have ever heard that and I would be hard pressed to believe it with the members of that class, including Clarett, Zwick, D'Andrea, Hall. Smith and Pitcock. Unfortunately I can't find anything to back what I recall being listed as the No. 2 class in the Country.

My point in starting this thread was to see what others thought about how are talent, especially on offense was developing compared to others.
 
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