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BUCKYLE;1440697; said:
I always thought of you as more of a Maurice Clarett guy.
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I always thought of you as more of a Maurice Clarett guy.
FrancisSoyer
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Wells carried us on his shoulders to at least 1 NC appearance. In 2007, how many times did we go into "just hand it off to Beanie" mode? This past year he may have been injured and didn't contribute as much but he was still our best offensive weapon (Pryor was close). Had Oden stayed for 1 more year he may have won me over. Beanie was just too productive not to get my vote.
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And Oden didn't?
Beanie was a great talent, but produced on a similar level to many other backs at OSU, not all of which were legends. Pittman's stats were about the same in 06, Clarett was similar in 02 (he just missed more snaps with injury). There will be others. There's a reason they say you should not draft a RB in the first round.
If there's another Oden, it will be surprising and rare.
Beanie was the #1 recruit in america. He had seasons with 7 & 8 tds. He was a very talented player, but he only produced consistently during one season.
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FrancisSoyer
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jwinslow;1441272; said:
Good points but I feel like Beanie had less talent around him than Oden. Pittman had the advantage of Troy Smith, Tedd Ginn, Gonzo, etc to take some of the pressure off of him. Clarrett probably would have been legendary had he kept his head on straight. Beanie had an underachieving line, average receivers, and an average quarterback (imo) and still dominated games. Yea, Oden was pretty much responsible for leading OSU to the NC but he also was surrounded by some some really good players. And like I said, if Oden would have stayed for another year he probably would have got my vote. That's like, my opinion man. There's no wrong answer.
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OregonBuckeye
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FrancisSawyer;1441339; said:
What? Oden had a top 5 pick at PG plus another 1st rounder and some veterans around him.
Oden was bigger recruit and it's not close.
Oden. Oden. Oden! ODEN!! ODEN!!!! ODEN!!!
(I'm yelling so I win)
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The point is there have been three all-time greats at RB in 15 years, plus Pittman who produced similar numbers to Beanie's best year. Until 06, OSU's heisman hardware was exclusively at RB. There will be many more great backs at OSU. There will probably never be another Oden, and there was no one close in recent history for the school.
OSU basketball does not land players like Greg Oden, let alone keep that momentum going with 2 more #1 centers & 4 top classes in 5 years. Oden is the face of the Oden/Conley/Cook signing, which revolutionized OSU's basketball program. Beanie did not revolutionize anything. He was simply another special back at OSU, something us fans have been blessed with quite often.
Oden didn't have to stay at OSU any longer to have a far greater impact. It began back in 2004 as the excitement/hype translated to more and more pickups, and his 06 NC run set the stage for continued success with NBA lottery picks like Thomas.
OSU basketball does not land players like Greg Oden, let alone keep that momentum going with 2 more #1 centers & 4 top classes in 5 years. Oden is the face of the Oden/Conley/Cook signing, which revolutionized OSU's basketball program. Beanie did not revolutionize anything. He was simply another special back at OSU, something us fans have been blessed with quite often.
Oden didn't have to stay at OSU any longer to have a far greater impact. It began back in 2004 as the excitement/hype translated to more and more pickups, and his 06 NC run set the stage for continued success with NBA lottery picks like Thomas.
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Oden in a landslide....
Haven't read the whole thread, so I'm sure others have mentioned the following...
Wells was a great back. A great recruit and a great "get" No question about it. I mean, any time you get the top back in the nation you're doing something right... it just so happens, the Buckeyes get really really good RBs all the time. In fact, considering the number of RB Heisman's and the current coaching staff, it's hardly surprising that another great back like Jamaal Berry picks the Buckeyes... so, it's hardly a coup that Beanie came to Ohio State.
Now, then, quick... name me one 7 footer with Greg Oden level talent who has played at Ohio State. Just one.
Quick.... name me 1 consensus #1 recruit in basketball who LOI'd with Ohio State before Greg Oden.....
Ohio State has had some very good basketball players come through. Jim Jackson, Clark Kellogg, Jerry Lucas, John Havlicek... to name a few of the bigger ones...
Eh... I guess my point is... I can name that many RBs that have won Heisman's at Ohio State. Beanie was great, but getting great talent at RB is COMMON to Ohio State.... Oden was great, and getting great talent in basketball generally, and Center specificially, is RARE... The Greg Oden's of the world go to Kansas.. to North Carolina... to Duke... they don't go to Ohio State. Likewise, the Beanie Wells' of the world.. they don't go to Kansas, North Carolina, Duke..... they go to Ohio State.. to USC... to Texas or Nebraska (back in the day)
Haven't read the whole thread, so I'm sure others have mentioned the following...
Wells was a great back. A great recruit and a great "get" No question about it. I mean, any time you get the top back in the nation you're doing something right... it just so happens, the Buckeyes get really really good RBs all the time. In fact, considering the number of RB Heisman's and the current coaching staff, it's hardly surprising that another great back like Jamaal Berry picks the Buckeyes... so, it's hardly a coup that Beanie came to Ohio State.
Now, then, quick... name me one 7 footer with Greg Oden level talent who has played at Ohio State. Just one.
Quick.... name me 1 consensus #1 recruit in basketball who LOI'd with Ohio State before Greg Oden.....
Ohio State has had some very good basketball players come through. Jim Jackson, Clark Kellogg, Jerry Lucas, John Havlicek... to name a few of the bigger ones...
Eh... I guess my point is... I can name that many RBs that have won Heisman's at Ohio State. Beanie was great, but getting great talent at RB is COMMON to Ohio State.... Oden was great, and getting great talent in basketball generally, and Center specificially, is RARE... The Greg Oden's of the world go to Kansas.. to North Carolina... to Duke... they don't go to Ohio State. Likewise, the Beanie Wells' of the world.. they don't go to Kansas, North Carolina, Duke..... they go to Ohio State.. to USC... to Texas or Nebraska (back in the day)
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1441506; said:
Jerry Lucas won two consecutive national player of the year awards in high school. I don't have any national recruiting rankings from 1958, but I think it's safe to say he was the #1 recruit in the country that year.
Admittedly, it was over 50 years ago, but you asked.
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BB73;1441880; said:Jerry Lucas won two consecutive national player of the year awards in high school. I don't have any national recruiting rankings from 1958, but I think it's safe to say he was the #1 recruit in the country that year.
Admittedly, it was over 50 years ago, but you asked.
without a link to the 1958 recruiting rankings, I'm gonna have to stick to my guns.
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1441892; said:without a link to the 1958 recruiting rankings, I'm gonna have to stick to my guns.
I thought you'd try to get out of it by saying they didn't have LOI's 50 years ago. :tongue2:
I don't know when those started.
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So, did coaches 50 years ago eagerly wait around the mailbox stalking the postman like they hover over the fax machine today? :tongue2:BB73;1442137; said:
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