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Am I the only one that's annoyed with their stealing Big Ten's branding?
PAC, SEC, ACC ... you can say their conference w/o need to specify any number. The confusion created by changing membership that can't be reflected with the right number b/c somebody else copied your brand... is annoying.
I can't wait for that albatross to die so we can just go by 3 letters like all the other cool kids.
PAC, SEC, ACC ... you can say their conference w/o need to specify any number. The confusion created by changing membership that can't be reflected with the right number b/c somebody else copied your brand... is annoying.
I can't wait for that albatross to die so we can just go by 3 letters like all the other cool kids.
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The Big XII is a reformulated version of the Big Six, a conference which dated back to 1928 and eventually expanded (by 1958) to become the Big Eight. The members were Colorado, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State.
In 1995, the Big Eight merged with the old Southwest Conference (SWC) to form the Big XII, with Texas, Texas A+M, Texas Tech, and Baylor being the new additions. The rest of the SWC - TCU, SMU, Rice, Houston - were cast adrift, with TCU eventually (in 2012) drifting back to a depleted Big XII.
In other words, the Big Whatever # Conference has a pretty long history of its own and is not a recent concoction.
By the way, the name "Big Ten" was a creation of sports writers in the 1920s, and it did not become the actual name of the conference until 1987. Before then, the conference was called either the "Intercollegiate Conference Athletic Association" or the "Intercollegiate Conference of Faculty Representatives", depending on which "official" history of the Big Ten Conference you'd prefer to believe.
In any event, you can always refer to the Big Ten as the "B1G" - two letters and a number, which is almost as cool as three letters.
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I was aware of the B8 but not the B6 so thanks for that. Seems somewhat suspect for several reasons, not least of which only 1 of the founding members are in the BigWannabes today (Kansas). Iowa, Nebraska, and Missouri ... well we know where they are. And then there's Washington St. Louis. Drake and Iowa State joined the next year, so we could go with 2 if we really wanted to. 5 and 7 isn't really 6 though...
Even of the B8 I grew up with... OU, KState, Kansas, OKSt, ISU are whats left. And a lot of rumors flying about OU and Kansas wanting out.
B9 still dates back to the 1910s though... with 6/7 of the original members (Chicago disbanded athletics), and 10/10 from the post war period when MSU joined.
I can't remember anyone ever referring to it as the official names... most historical sources don't seem to go by ICAA either.
Anyway, there can be only one... the time has come.
Even of the B8 I grew up with... OU, KState, Kansas, OKSt, ISU are whats left. And a lot of rumors flying about OU and Kansas wanting out.
B9 still dates back to the 1910s though... with 6/7 of the original members (Chicago disbanded athletics), and 10/10 from the post war period when MSU joined.
I can't remember anyone ever referring to it as the official names... most historical sources don't seem to go by ICAA either.
Anyway, there can be only one... the time has come.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
I thought it was the Western Conference at one point. That's what a lot of the old team photos that used to hang in St. John said: "Western Conference Champions."
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"Western Conference" was another media creation, at least according to the Big Ten website. "Big Ten" probably stuck because: (a) it sounds cooler, and (b) while the Great Lakes region is "West" compared to Harvard and Yale, it's hardly "West" from any non-Ivy perspective.
As far as banners go, "Western Conference Champions" has a slightly better ring to it than "Intercollegiate Conference of Faculty Representatives Champions".
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dragurd
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Well the only reason anyone is left in the conference is Texas likes running things and everyone else that matters is to worred about will happen if they leave Texas and Little Brother instead of just doing what's best for them and fuck the rest. It's rather amusing to read their forums.
Oh and Baylor Threatens to sue everyone into oblivion should they dare take away their gravy train...
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To be honest, I think the only school that controls their own destiny is OU. Maybe Kansas. Once pieces start falling, WVU could find themselves with an ACC invite I suppose.
Everyone else is hoping/praying PAC takes them in a package deal with Texas when shit hits the fan. Schools like ISU and Baylor are living on borrowed time. If OU joins B1G or SEC, everyone else is posturing to be Texas' 3 besties and go to the PAC.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
West Virginia president in favor of Big 12 expansion
If you thought the Big 12 being given the opportunity to hold a conference championship game with just 10 members was going to silence all talks about conference expansion, think again. West Virginia president Gorden Gee is apparently joining Oklahoma president David Boren on his side of the chalk line in the debate over the Big 12 operating with 10 members or 12.
“I think the notion of going to 12 [schools] is most likely,” Gee said in a story published by the Charleston Gazette-Mail this week. Gee said the topic of expansion and the issues attached to it are scheduled to be discussed during the Big 12’s meeting of presidents and chancellors in early February. It is at those meetings the spotlight will be shining on Boren, who is expected to take the lead in addressing a number ofpreviously stated concerns regarding the conference’s stability like the Longhorn Network blocking a path to creating a conference-wide network among others. But when it comes to finding two more potential members, Gee is on board the expansion train.
Entire article: http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...ginia-president-in-favor-of-big-12-expansion/
The guy in the picture (above) sure looks familiar: but, I just can't place him.
If you thought the Big 12 being given the opportunity to hold a conference championship game with just 10 members was going to silence all talks about conference expansion, think again. West Virginia president Gorden Gee is apparently joining Oklahoma president David Boren on his side of the chalk line in the debate over the Big 12 operating with 10 members or 12.
“I think the notion of going to 12 [schools] is most likely,” Gee said in a story published by the Charleston Gazette-Mail this week. Gee said the topic of expansion and the issues attached to it are scheduled to be discussed during the Big 12’s meeting of presidents and chancellors in early February. It is at those meetings the spotlight will be shining on Boren, who is expected to take the lead in addressing a number ofpreviously stated concerns regarding the conference’s stability like the Longhorn Network blocking a path to creating a conference-wide network among others. But when it comes to finding two more potential members, Gee is on board the expansion train.
Entire article: http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...ginia-president-in-favor-of-big-12-expansion/
The guy in the picture (above) sure looks familiar: but, I just can't place him.
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