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Big Ten Conference Divisions

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OneBuckeye;1757954; said:
Scenario

1. This will rarely happen, there could be a 1 loss team (as long as the tie breaker isn't head to head) that could take the spot of the loser in the CCG

That head-to-head tie-breaker is actually very likely. All Michigan or Ohio State would have to do to be in that position is have either 1 fewer loss or a win against the second place team in the division.

2. If you want to win the NC you have to win that game.

This case isn't about winning, it's about playing hard. As much as I'd like to believe each and every player would get up for that game, it's very unlikely.

3. OSU would want to win to try to win the NC assuming they have 1 loss or less. Plus having the pleasure of keeping SCUM out of the CCG is great motivation IMO.

I agree with the motivation here, but there are FAR more scenarios where this situation has NO NCG implications then there are that do.
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Splitting them isn't inherently a bad idea...but splitting them AND leaving The Game where it is seems to be MUCH more dangerous.
 
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For the sake of argument, let's assume that splitting UM and OSU into different divisions was a given. Then isn't it better to make the Game earlier in the season than at the end? Look at it this way--if UM and OSU both enter the Game at 8-0 and the respective second place teams in their divisions are 6-2, then do both teams rest their starters for this now meaningless game because all the marbles will ride on the CCG?

It seems to me that Delaney has formulated the worst possible solution in terms of preserving the Game--not only has he created the ridiculous scenario in which there is a rematch, but he's also created a scenario under which the first round of the Game could be utterly meaningless.
 
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buckeyesin07;1757973; said:
For the sake of argument, let's assume that splitting UM and OSU into different divisions was a given. Then isn't it better to make the Game earlier in the season than at the end? Look at it this way--if UM and OSU both enter the Game at 8-0 and the respective second place teams in their divisions are 6-2, then do both teams rest their starters for this now meaningless game because all the marbles will ride on the CCG?

It seems to me that Delaney has formulated the worst possible solution in terms of preserving the Game--not only has he created the ridiculous scenario in which there is a rematch, but he's also created a scenario under which the first round of the Game could be utterly meaningless.
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Welcome to the party.
 
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buckeyesin07;1757973; said:
For the sake of argument, let's assume that splitting UM and OSU into different divisions was a given. Then isn't it better to make the Game earlier in the season than at the end? Look at it this way--if UM and OSU both enter the Game at 8-0 and the respective second place teams in their divisions are 6-2, then do both teams rest their starters for this now meaningless game because all the marbles will ride on the CCG?
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Tressel will never enter The Game without full intent to win.
 
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Jimmy Carter;1757950; said:
Big Ten Conference to split Ohio State Buckeyes, Michigan Wolverines, sources say - ESPN

OSU and scum in different divisions.
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Bad call! BAD CALL!

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buckeyesin07 said:
For the sake of argument, let's assume that splitting UM and OSU into different divisions was a given. Then isn't it better to make the Game earlier in the season than at the end? Look at it this way--if UM and OSU both enter the Game at 8-0 and the respective second place teams in their divisions are 6-2, then do both teams rest their starters for this now meaningless game because all the marbles will ride on the CCG?

It seems to me that Delaney has formulated the worst possible solution in terms of preserving the Game--not only has he created the ridiculous scenario in which there is a rematch, but he's also created a scenario under which the first round of the Game could be utterly meaningless.
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Agree to a 0-0 tie and play THE GAME as the CCG.

Seriously.
 
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buckeyesin07;1757973; said:
For the sake of argument, let's assume that splitting UM and OSU into different divisions was a given. Then isn't it better to make the Game earlier in the season than at the end? Look at it this way--if UM and OSU both enter the Game at 8-0 and the respective second place teams in their divisions are 6-2, then do both teams rest their starters for this now meaningless game because all the marbles will ride on the CCG?

It seems to me that Delaney has formulated the worst possible solution in terms of preserving the Game--not only has he created the ridiculous scenario in which there is a rematch, but he's also created a scenario under which the first round of the Game could be utterly meaningless.
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If OSU has the CCG game locked up going into the last game odds are that they are playing to get into the BCS CG. Why throw away a game to rest starters when it could knock you out of the running.

I just don't see UM ever being a throw away game because there will always be something to play for. Either OSU is looking for a possible BCS CG birth or there was a bad season that can be made better by kicking the tar out of UM.

Although I agree I don't know how Delaney and crew could screw up the divisions so badly when a simple east west split works so well.
 
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SloopyHangOn;1757971; said:
Splitting them isn't inherently a bad idea...but splitting them AND leaving The Game where it is seems to be MUCH more dangerous.
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Yes, but with the state of things at UM compared to their division mates Iowa Nebraska and MSU. I don't think we will see that danger for a long time. At least in your scenario number 1 where there would be a rematch no matter what. Any other scenario it is still the OSU UM game and it won't change. The only let down will come when u know there will be a rematch.
 
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