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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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Tim Cowlishaw: Notre Dame to Big 10 just makes sense | Sports News | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News

It elevates that conference's football standing, one that has fallen well behind the SEC's and the Big 12's in recent years, in an immediate way.
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Where would this Notre Dame team be in this year's Big Ten?
A lot higher than seventh, that's for sure.
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I think it's going to happen. At least it should.
In addition to making sense for all involved in the Big Ten, it would keep the Big 12 whole. And that's a good thing.
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This is a terrible column for why Notre Dame should join.

I love the subjectivity of his perception of Big Ten football, which is way off base with the reality of the conference. We are highly competitive and more than fine on the national stage.

Then he insults the Big Ten's basketball depth by saying the Irish would be a lot higher than seventh in our conference than the Big East? Who do they do better than? We have a great top 4, plus Illinois, NW and Minny. How much is a lot higher than seventh to Cowlishaw? 6th? 5th?

Then the clincher, ND joining the Big Ten would keep the Big 12 as a whole, which is a good thing...

Why would the Big Ten give a rat's behind on the stability of the Big 12? What, for the greater good of the NCAA? To make sure that Cowlishaw's precious Big 12, that does so much better than the Big Ten, can stay intact and stable... This column is garbage. The only thing he brings to the table is that ND would make more money in the Big Ten, and that's been obvious for a long time.
 
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jlb1705;1671976; said:
I get all the other things, but why wouldn't the Big Ten take their hockey program for a hockey conference?
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I'd be very disappointed if we did. The Big Ten has always been adamant with them: they join for all sports with no special treatment or they don't join at all. To take their hockey program along when we form the BTHC would fly in the face of everything we've supposedly stood for. Plus, whether it's the domers or any other CCHA teams, if we take them along then it's not really a BTHC.

Given the bad blood that the domers antics and arrogance has engendered among Big Ten schools, I just can't see us doing them any favors--even if it serves a short term interest for us.
 
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Buckrock;1671997; said:
The following 5 teams would give us 16. 8 in the East 8 in the West.

1. ND
2. Texas
3. Syracuse
4. Rutgers
5. Missouri

Add in two more to make it 18

1. Texas A&M
2. Boston College
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16, to me, is just too much. It's too unruly--dilutes the character of the league (i.e. too many outsiders at once). Plus, I really don't see how we could absorb that many while maintaining one of the primary directives of expansion--that when the dust settles, each school's 22 million dollar payout expands.

14 might be workable. I like Texas and (depending on Texas legislature interference) A&M or Mizzou with my preference being the latter. Then go East for the last school and take the most logical candidate out of the Pitt-Syracuse-Rutgers triumvirate. Freeze out the domers, strand their hockey program in the rump CCHA and stop scheduling them in football.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1672008; said:
16, to me, is just too much. It's too unruly--dilutes the character of the league (i.e. too many outsiders at once). Plus, I really don't see how we could absorb that many while maintaining one of the primary directives of expansion--that when the dust settles, each school's 22 million dollar payout expands.

14 might be workable. I like Texas and (depending on Texas legislature interference) A&M or Mizzou with my preference being the latter. Then go East for the last school and take the most logical candidate out of the Pitt-Syracuse-Rutgers triumvirate. Freeze out the domers, strand their hockey program in the rump CCHA and stop scheduling them in football.
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I think one or two conferences will disapere in the next 18-36 months. The SEC, Big10 and Pac10 will dominate. The fact ND is now thinking it may HAVE to join a conference has everything to do about TV ratings. Cable, not network. We need to go East and extend from the midwest to the South if possible. I'd be worried if I was the Big East and the Big 12.
 
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Buckrock;1672028; said:
I think one or two conferences will disapere in the next 18-36 months. The SEC, Big10 and Pac10 will dominate. The fact ND is now thinking it may HAVE to join a conference has everything to do about TV ratings. Cable, not network. We need to go East and extend from the midwest to the South if possible. I'd be worried if I was the Big East and the Big 12.
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I think the B12 will be fine. Worst case, they lose 2 to the Big Ten and 1 to the Pac 10. They can fill them in from BYU, TCU, Houston, Colorado State. MWC refills with the best of the WAC--Boise, Fresno and Nevada. WAC disappears or drops down a level.

The big loser is the Big East. Should the Big Ten take 2 from them, and the domers not join, who do they replace them with? East Carolina? Memphis? The 5th best program in Florida?

You go from a conference that a decade ago was a very respectable:
Miami
Boston College
Va Tech
Pitt
WVU
Syracuse
UCONN
Rutgers

To one that becomes a glorified Conference USA:
Cincy
Louisville
Cental Florida
Southern Florida
Memphis
WVU
Rutgers
UCONN

How the hell does THAT remain an auto qualifying conference?
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1672040; said:
I think the B12 will be fine. Worst case, they lose 2 to the Big Ten and 1 to the Pac 10. They can fill them in from BYU, TCU, Houston, Colorado State. MWC refills with the best of the WAC--Boise, Fresno and Nevada. WAC disappears or drops down a level.

The big loser is the Big East. Should the Big Ten take 2 from them, and the domers not join, who do they replace them with? East Carolina? Memphis? The 5th best program in Florida?

You go from a conference that a decade ago was a very respectable:
Miami
Boston College
Va Tech
Pitt
WVU
Syracuse
UCONN
Rutgers

To one that becomes a glorified Conference USA:
Cincy
Louisville
Cental Florida
Southern Florida
Memphis
WVU
Rutgers
UCONN

How the hell does THAT remain an auto qualifying conference?
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You may be right but Texas is a founding father and the linch pin for the Big 12. If they fall, Texas AM goes and the rest like dominos!!! ACC is the next to fall. Sincerely, Nostradamas!!! LMAO (im dumd as S*it!).
 
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Stewart: West Virginia could end up in new league

The host asks Stewart about the Big Ten potentially raiding the Big East, and here's what Stewart had to say:

"It's exciting. It's disheartening as well. ... The Big Ten could ... they'll pick a couple of our teams. However, the SEC and the ACC will also do the same, so that's exciting. I don't know where we're going to land. We could land, whatever, in one of maybe three conferences, the ACC, the SEC, maybe the Big Ten.

"But right now, we're still Big East and we need to keep that focus. And that's the disheartening thing, when you break up a Big East contingency like we had. We had a lot of fun, a lot of rivals, and I hate to see that end. But there are exciting times on the horizon with new conferences. We'll be in one of them; which one I don't know, I really don't. But that's down the road a couple of years, I do believe."

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Cincy boards really starting to sweat now. It seems like all but the blindest kool-aid drinkers realize they could find themselves back in CUSA if the Big East is destroyed. Here'e my favorite catch.

If UC gets left out in the cold becasue of this after all the money they have spent on facilities, getting in the Big East, etc, then it will be time for a lawsuit against the BCS, Big 10, etc.
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I'd love to see some lawyer try to argue that somehow the Big Ten made Cincy borrow all that money they didn't have to chase football glory and how one or two BE teams voluntarily choosing to leave the BE and join the B10 is actionable. Love it.
 
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krazeyk;1672976; said:
Hopefully the Big Ten raiding the Big East turns out better than a certain Big Ten team that raided a Big East teams coaches :slappy:
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Hopefully the Big Ten raiding the Big East turns out better than the last time a conference raided the Big East. What's happened to the ACC, anyway?

ORD_Buckeye;1675737; said:
I'd love to see some lawyer try to argue that somehow the Big Ten made Cincy borrow all that money they didn't have to chase football glory and how one or two BE teams voluntarily choosing to leave the BE and join the B10 is actionable. Love it.
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Wasn't there some lawsuit against Miami, Boston College, Virginia Tech, or the ACC when that move was made? That didn't seem to stop very much.
 
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