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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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Isn't this the Big Ten expansion thread?

Are any of the proposed schools truly viable options in the near future, or is this just killing time until the Spring Game? :biggrin:

I suspect expansion will come, whether I like it or not, but it doesn't seem imminent.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1668401; said:
Fuck Duke, indeed.

And there are no serious ACC candidates for B10 expansion, so why are we talking about them?
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:lol: at the Maryland fans chanting "Fuck Duke"....it's like they read this thread :lol:

Maryland would be an interesting candidate too....if expansion was an absolute must (it's not) and if a few of the other candidates fell apart (they likely won't)....
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1668401; said:
Fuck Duke, indeed.

And there are no serious ACC candidates for B10 expansion, so why are we talking about them?
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From that article:

Many a Duke fan attempts to dismiss the article outright by simply labeling it the product of jealousy. SI writer Phil Taylor exemplifies this mindless approach with his myopic article entitled, 'Blue With Envy.' Washington Post writer Tony Kornheiser recently echoed this shallow drivel in a column that specifically compared the hatred to that held for the Yankees. I suppose this is an easy enough way to avoid addressing the countless examples, statistics, and decades of hard historical evidence that support the criticisms outlined. But it is a little too simple. Perennial success, standing alone, does not breed hatred. Does anyone hate Lance Armstrong? Or Tiger Woods? Or Serena Williams?
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:slappy: Time for another update to The Anti-Duke Manifesto!
 
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BB73;1668545; said:
tOSU's Rivals site has a chart with endowment and TV market info for almost all of the expansion candidates.

Rivals
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I don't understand how they go about determining what TV markets perspective candidates contribute. They don't think Syracuse brings a chunck of the New York Market? Penn State doesn't bring in any of the Philly market? Maryland none of the DC market? UCONN brings in only the Hartford market? Seems to me the list is based on geography alone (and even that isn't well executed), whereas what they really should have focused on is where alumni largely reside.
 
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sepia5;1668583; said:
I don't understand how they go about determining what TV markets perspective candidates contribute. They don't think Syracuse brings a chunck of the New York Market? Penn State doesn't bring in any of the Philly market? Maryland none of the DC market? UCONN brings in only the Hartford market? Seems to me the list is based on geography alone (and even that isn't well executed), whereas what they really should have focused on is where alumni largely reside.
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I have stated this a million times in this thread and I am glad someone else actually is saying it. I know for a fact Philly has NO college allegiances except some people follow Temple... Anyway, like I have said before Philly and NY are all pro followers. I know PSU Alumni that only watch the Bowl Game around here.

I have been to Columbus, Chicago and Parts of TSUN. Your news channels cover College Sports extensively. The only place I have for College Sports in Philly is ESPN....Our newspapers ignore PSU for the most part, I think High School Sports gets more in the paper than PSU on any given day. You guys really need to believe some of these people that say bringing in teams like Rutgers and Syracuse are NOT going to bring in these big city markets. I see it first hand everyday, people out here are way different than Midwesterners when it come to college sports.

Out here, nobody cares about the Big Ten in Football and Basketball. They have the mighty Villanova and Atlantic 10 to watch(for Basketball)...and it isn't going to change by bringing in a team from Jersey, Maryland or NY. The only time PSU gets a second glance is when they are doing really well, and well that about never.
 
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sepia5;1668583; said:
I don't understand how they go about determining what TV markets perspective candidates contribute. They don't think Syracuse brings a chunck of the New York Market? Penn State doesn't bring in any of the Philly market? Maryland none of the DC market? UCONN brings in only the Hartford market? Seems to me the list is based on geography alone (and even that isn't well executed), whereas what they really should have focused on is where alumni largely reside.
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Maybe the fact that when the alumni were in school, they didn't sell out their games?
 
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sepia5;1668583; said:
I don't understand how they go about determining what TV markets perspective candidates contribute. They don't think Syracuse brings a chunck of the New York Market? Penn State doesn't bring in any of the Philly market? Maryland none of the DC market? UCONN brings in only the Hartford market? Seems to me the list is based on geography alone (and even that isn't well executed), whereas what they really should have focused on is where alumni largely reside.
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There is just a completely different culture in those markets that does not care for collegiate athletics.
 
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Ahhhh, ain't they cute!

Scout.com: Cincinnati will Listen to Big 10....

They remind me of this guy......

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Loudly boasting that he'd never, ever go out with this girl....

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....only because he knows he has no shot in the world.
 
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The CFN guys talk about Rutgers.

CFN

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I believe the Big Ten, in its perfect world, would bring on three programs. There has been talk of five, but that seems like too big a jump and a 16-team league might be too massive and almost counterproductive. There would almost be no way for much football interdivisional play if there were two divisions of eight. Rutgers would be a good fit, Missouri from the Big 12 would be a natural geographic rival with Illinois and Iowa, and Pitt would bring aboard another decent-sized market and good programs, although Syracuse might make more sense academic-wise and would be tremendous for basketball and helping with the New York market.

So, basically, Rutgers might end up making sense, but it could be just a piece of the overall puzzle - if it happens.

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