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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
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Zurp said:
I'm not sure if you're joking or not. My apologies if you're joking...
But the chances that any team would avoid playing at one of those four teams, randomly, are low.
18 teams. You can't play yourself, so 17 teams. You play 9 of them, so you're playing 52.9% of the other teams in the conference. Most teams have 1 "rival". So you play your rival plus 8 other teams, and miss playing 8 teams. Theoretically, you can alternate the 8 teams on your schedule with the 8 teams not on your schedule. Since there are 4 west coast teams, it makes sense to have 2 on the "play this year" list and 2 on the "play next year" list. Since half of the games are away, you're pretty much going to have (and want to have) 1 game at the west coast every year.
I know that it isn't as simple as that. We won't be alternating the "play this year" and the "play next year" teams. But over the coarse of infinity, it should even out pretty well.
To test this, note that there are 14 teams not on the west coast. With 5 seasons planned out, there are 14 x 5 = 70 teams' schedules. 2 of those teams (Purdue, 2024 and Rutgers, 2026) do not play on the west coast. So 97% of the teams are playing on the west coast.

So yeah - the fucks in the league office (I'm not going to correct your use of "fucks" because I agree with it for other reasons) will make sure we play out west every year.
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I think the odds of at least one random West Coast conference game for tOSU in a given year are this:

There are 4 road games among the 8 non-TTUN matchups. So the odds of zero such games are 12/16 * 11/15 * 10/14 * 9/13, which is 11,880/43,680, or 27.2%; making the chances of at least 1 such game 72.8%.

For those of you who were told “there would be no math”, you were misinformed.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
It's almost a certainty that the fucks in the league office will make sure to have us and tsun playing out West every year.
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CincyInterloper said:
Statistically, 99% of all sentences on the Internet including the words “league office” also contain the word “fucks”. Interestingly, the remaining 1% include the word “cunts”.
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Regardless, I sure as shit don't fucking roll!
 
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BB73 said:
I think the odds of at least one random West Coast conference game for tOSU in a given year are this:

There are 4 road games among the 8 non-TTUN matchups. So the odds of zero such games are 12/16 * 11/15 * 10/14 * 9/13, which is 11,880/43,680, or 27.2%; making the chances of at least 1 such game 72.8%.

For those of you who were told “there would be no math”, you were misinformed.
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Throw all the math at me you want. I'll either get it or I won't.
In this case, I don't get it. 12/16? The 16 is the number of non-TTUN teams that Ohio State can play. 12 is the number of teams that aren't out west? Then, I guess once you succeed that roll, there's 15 more teams, 11 of which aren't out west, and so on...?

Where's DBB?

Let's say your calculation is correct. (I'm not saying it is or isn't - this is one part of probability that I don't remember how to do.) That's saying that the "fucks in the league office" are being 100% random with the schedule, as far as who each team plays (not necessarily about home/away). (Also, I know that "random" doesn't have degrees - you can't have something that is "more random" than something else. Something is either random or it isn't. But.... I'm going to stick with saying "100% random.") So if it's a 27.2% chance of not playing out west, what are the chances of a team playing exactly 1 game out west? Or 2 games or 3 games or 4 games? I'm guessing that the fucks in the league office are skewing the schedules toward everyone playing 1 game out west, and away from 2 or 3 or 4 games. How great would it be if Penn State had to play 3 or 4 games out west?

Let's try this math:
With 4 teams out west, each averaging 4.5 home games, that's 18 games out west. Maybe 4 of those games are west on west action (A vs B, A vs C, B vs D, C vs D). So there are 14 more games to be played out west. There are 14 teams not out west. So, on average, each eastern team will play 1.0 games out west. They can add at most 2 more games for west vs west (A vs D and B vs C), leaving 12 more games to fill. That's still 0.857 games per east team to play out west.
 
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Zurp said:
Throw all the math at me you want. I'll either get it or I won't.
In this case, I don't get it. 12/16? The 16 is the number of non-TTUN teams that Ohio State can play. 12 is the number of teams that aren't out west? Then, I guess once you succeed that roll, there's 15 more teams, 11 of which aren't out west, and so on...?

Where's DBB?

Let's say your calculation is correct. (I'm not saying it is or isn't - this is one part of probability that I don't remember how to do.) That's saying that the "fucks in the league office" are being 100% random with the schedule, as far as who each team plays (not necessarily about home/away). (Also, I know that "random" doesn't have degrees - you can't have something that is "more random" than something else. Something is either random or it isn't. But.... I'm going to stick with saying "100% random.") So if it's a 27.2% chance of not playing out west, what are the chances of a team playing exactly 1 game out west? Or 2 games or 3 games or 4 games? I'm guessing that the fucks in the league office are skewing the schedules toward everyone playing 1 game out west, and away from 2 or 3 or 4 games. How great would it be if Penn State had to play 3 or 4 games out west?

Let's try this math:
With 4 teams out west, each averaging 4.5 home games, that's 18 games out west. Maybe 4 of those games are west on west action (A vs B, A vs C, B vs D, C vs D). So there are 14 more games to be played out west. There are 14 teams not out west. So, on average, each eastern team will play 1.0 games out west. They can add at most 2 more games for west vs west (A vs D and B vs C), leaving 12 more games to fill. That's still 0.857 games per east team to play out west.
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I think his math is off anyways I think it would be 4/32 assuming you want to calculate the number of games played on the west coast and not just against West coast teams cause there is a home and away games. However I could easily make the argument home and away are not random cause 1 I expect them to try to get 1 home and away game per 4 years. And 2 they balance the games 4-5 or 5-4. So not random no idea how to math that
 
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BB73 said:
I think the odds of at least one random West Coast conference game for tOSU in a given year are this:

There are 4 road games among the 8 non-TTUN matchups. So the odds of zero such games are 12/16 * 11/15 * 10/14 * 9/13, which is 11,880/43,680, or 27.2%; making the chances of at least 1 such game 72.8%.

For those of you who were told “there would be no math”, you were misinformed.
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Zurp said:
Throw all the math at me you want. I'll either get it or I won't.
In this case, I don't get it. 12/16? The 16 is the number of non-TTUN teams that Ohio State can play. 12 is the number of teams that aren't out west? Then, I guess once you succeed that roll, there's 15 more teams, 11 of which aren't out west, and so on...?

Where's DBB?

Let's say your calculation is correct. (I'm not saying it is or isn't - this is one part of probability that I don't remember how to do.) That's saying that the "fucks in the league office" are being 100% random with the schedule, as far as who each team plays (not necessarily about home/away). (Also, I know that "random" doesn't have degrees - you can't have something that is "more random" than something else. Something is either random or it isn't. But.... I'm going to stick with saying "100% random.") So if it's a 27.2% chance of not playing out west, what are the chances of a team playing exactly 1 game out west? Or 2 games or 3 games or 4 games? I'm guessing that the fucks in the league office are skewing the schedules toward everyone playing 1 game out west, and away from 2 or 3 or 4 games. How great would it be if Penn State had to play 3 or 4 games out west?

Let's try this math:
With 4 teams out west, each averaging 4.5 home games, that's 18 games out west. Maybe 4 of those games are west on west action (A vs B, A vs C, B vs D, C vs D). So there are 14 more games to be played out west. There are 14 teams not out west. So, on average, each eastern team will play 1.0 games out west. They can add at most 2 more games for west vs west (A vs D and B vs C), leaving 12 more games to fill. That's still 0.857 games per east team to play out west.
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dragurd said:
I think his math is off anyways I think it would be 4/32 assuming you want to calculate the number of games played on the west coast and not just against West coast teams cause there is a home and away games. However I could easily make the argument home and away are not random cause 1 I expect them to try to get 1 home and away game per 4 years. And 2 they balance the games 4-5 or 5-4. So not random no idea how to math that
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This site has gone to shit. I came here to talk about Mark May blowing 5 guys while at Pitt, shitting on those fucks up north, dildos, laughing at Penn State not being a rival, and the occasional non-Ohio State troll account. Not this factual, deep analysis BS.

I'm off to look at boobs in a different thread.
 
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