Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[AKAK]

I think the problem with "co-champions" doesn't bother me. It's bothered me once that I know of: 2002. Iowa and Ohio State were each 8-0. Other than that, no problems. 2005, Penn State fans might whine that Ohio State shouldn't be co-champions. But they beat Ohio State. What other bragging rights do they need? And if they want to get rid of the "co" part of "co-champions," they should have beat Michigan.

Just because the rest of the world need to have a championship game, it doesn't mean the Big Ten does, too. The Big Ten is the leader in this millenium. From instant replay to its own network, the Big Ten should remain leaders - not following in other conferences' whacked-out ideas.

I think the point is... there are a lot of things that make the Big 10 the conference that it is... and... if we're going to add a University to it... just to drum up 10 million bucks in tv revenues and a conference championship in football... its not for the right reasons...

All the discussion is there... I just don't see what any of the "candidates" adds to the Big Ten Academically or Athletically in a reasonable geographical location... though I guess that's less important now than it was...

But... consider...

The Big 10 is the flagship state universities of the Midwest/NW Territories (Ohio State, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan State, and Iowa) And... Pretty much the same thing in Penn State... just... one more state to the east.

Probably the top Academic University in the midwest in Northwestern.

Maybe the Nation's Premier Ag school (also a land grant institution) and a top engineering school in Purdue.

and we've got Michigan too... (I'm sure they are good for something )

So... I just don't see what Rutgers or whoever brings to the party that's going to make the Big Ten stronger...

 

[BayBuck]

Uh, since when is a .400 winning percentage better than .500?

Wins and losses aside, more bowl trips is better than fewer.

 

[martinss01]

another vote for dropping penn state.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Wins and losses aside, more bowl trips is better than fewer.

"msj2487: Indiana has the better bowl record of 2-3, while Rutgers is just 1-1". A 2-3 record is not better than a 1-1 record. And actually, msj2487's "facts" are wrong. Inidiana's bowl record is 3-5, not 2-3. Rutger's is 1-2, not 1-1. Indiana hasn't been to a bowl since 1993...Rutgers has been to bowls the last two years.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Probably the top Academic University in the midwest in Northwestern.

(cough, cough) Chicago? (cough)

 

[OSU SPORTS]

I think you have to put this in perspective. Delany and Silverman were in Iowa to discuss the BIG TEN NETWORK, not expansion of the Big Ten. IMO, Delany only mentioned this to promote the BTN. If you read the entire article, it's obvious that this was his intention. Delany also states in the article that season ending games would be devalued. Even when ND was being mentioned as an expansion team, a conf championship was not part of the deal. The college presidents wouldn't go for that. What happened in this long conversation about the BTN, is the media took one little part and ran with it. If you think about it, it was pretty shrewd of Delany. Now the media is pumping out stories, message boards are discussing it and now you have a large segment of the sports population(not just within the Big Ten)talking about the Big Ten and THE BIG TEN NETWORK. That's what I call some free advertising.

Like I said in this post, the media took the little blurb about possible expansion and ran with it. HIs visit to Iowa was about the BTN, not expansion. The expansion conversation was only thrown out there to promote the BTN.


Delany puts the brakes on expansion talk - Jim Carty - MLive.com

 

[BestDamnBuckFan]

I've heard Mizzou is the most likely b/c of ND's NBC contract but I have always wanted ND to join the Big 10....not sure if they'd want to now seeing as how they'd get killed by OSU, scUM & Wisconsin and maybe even PSU

I think it's a combo of the $$$ and the fear is getting beatdown that will keep ND from ever joining any conference especially the Big 10


The Big 12 East, The Big Mid-West, The Midwest 12

I don't think you can continue calling it the Big 10 when it has 12 teams....probablt not even when PSU joined, it's 11 not 10 obviously.....

 

[AKAK]

(cough, cough) Chicago? (cough)

[cough]D-III[cough]

(And they're in CIC anyway... )

But your point is taken and I didn't actually overlook them as much as my "pool" in this as a whole are those who would meet all qualifications. As a comparison, If we were talking Big East- or whatever- I would have left MIT out, too.

 

[thackattack]

The Big 12 East, The Big Mid-West, The Midwest 12

BMW does have a nice ring to it...

 

[Muck]

I don't think you can continue calling it the Big 10 when it has 12 teams....probablt (sic) not even when PSU joined, it's 11 not 10 obviously.....

Probably nothing, it's quite obvious that they can continue to call it the Big10 even with Penn State since they've done so for almost 15 years.

 

[BB73]

usatoday

Delany downplays Big Ten expansion talk

By Marlen Garcia, USA TODAY

CHICAGO ? Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany on Tuesday downplayed his position on expanding the 11-member league to 12 teams.

Last week, Delany told The Des Moines Register the creation of the Big Ten Network means conference officials "need" to discuss expansion again in the next year.

"What I said was every three to five years we look at expansion, and we will continue to look at it," Delany said at the league's football media-day gathering. "It is not a front-burner issue. With the exception of Notre Dame (in 1999), we really have not had conversations with anyone, nor do we plan to have conversations with anyone."

Even so, the Des Moines paper quoted him as saying, "I think we need to look at it in the next year. ? We have eight states. With expansion, you could have nine."

Syracuse and Rutgers have surfaced in reports as potential candidates. Either school could open the door to the New York market.

Cont'd ...

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

usatoday

I'm guessing that the presidents have told him to shut up and go to his room. As I said earlier, it never was his decision to make.

 

[cincibuck]

texas won't happen if but for one reason: their rivalry with oklahoma...

And the annual season ending game with T A&M.

Inviting Texas to the Big Ten makes abosolutely no sense whatsoever when you throw in travel costs, rivalries, history, regional culture for both sides.

 

[BuckeyePride]

Stewart Mendel thinks it's going to Nebraska.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

so it officially won't be nebraska