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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%
  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%
  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%
  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%
  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%
  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%
  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%
  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%
  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%
  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%
  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%
  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%
  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%
  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%
  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%
  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%
  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%
  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%
  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%
  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%

  • Total voters
    313
So it's actually closer from Los Angeles to Stanford than I had thought. About a 6-hour drive, according to Google Maps. But you're right. Just looking at it on this map, and you can see the trip to any of the other teams is going to be a lot longer.

Exactly. USC/UCLA may be near each other, and Stanford/Cal may be near each other, but either of those pairs - by actual drive time - are as remote as Columbus to Chicago or Columbus to College Park. And those four schools were the closest proximity together of the twelve.

Seattle to either Pullman or Eugene are both going to be five hour drives.

People bemoaning realignment because of the travel effects on the student athletes from the west coast is laughably absurd to me. Just look at a map!
 
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Exactly. USC/UCLA may be near each other, and Stanford/Cal may be near each other, but either of those pairs - by actual drive time - are as remote as Columbus to Chicago or Columbus to College Park. And those four schools were the closest proximity together of the twelve.

Seattle to either Pullman or Eugene are both going to be five hour drives.

People bemoaning realignment because of the travel effects on the student athletes from the west coast is laughably absurd to me. Just look at a map!
You’ve obviously never driven from Ety Rd. To Fair Ave. before the bypass.
 
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High school buddy worked at Aflec Corporate after he got out of the military. He rented half a house on the GA Tech campus and would invite us down every summer for the Music Midtown festival in the early 00s (back when Atlanta’s own Marvelous 3 blew up with the song ‘Freak of the Week’). Let’s just say I’m well acquainted with every establishment in Little Five Points and every five-star dive bar on Ponce.

I love the eclectic weirdness of Atlanta after dark. That’s my fucking tribe.


Oh my god. I was probably there.
Marv 3 exploded in 98-99 and hit MM in back to back years and was awesome. FWIW - they are doing a series of reunion shows in October at the Tabernacle and I'm thinking strongly about going back to see them. They were the "seen them all over" band. They would play at festivals and grunge bars and parks and pregame outside Turner Field. They never turned down a gig and when they finally hit it big the city celebrated with them.

Music Midtown was the ultimate "you just had to be there" festival.
For those outside of the know - imagine a very large, oddly shaped park where there were six very different corners.
In each corner, a local radio station would build their stage and invite the artists that performed in their genre of music.

In one day, I saw the following acts, starting at 10:30am. OAR, John Mayer, Ludacris, Run DMC, and that evening main stage featured Stone Temple Pilots.
To give you an idea of the variety, the previous evening the main stage featured Rev. Al Green.

My ticket cost $41. For a 20 year old kid it was incredible.
 
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Oh my god. I was probably there.
Marv 3 exploded in 98-99 and hit MM in back to back years and was awesome. FWIW - they are doing a series of reunion shows in October at the Tabernacle and I'm thinking strongly about going back to see them. They were the "seen them all over" band. They would play at festivals and grunge bars and parks and pregame outside Turner Field. They never turned down a gig and when they finally hit it big the city celebrated with them.

Music Midtown was the ultimate "you just had to be there" festival.
For those outside of the know - imagine a very large, oddly shaped park where there were six very different corners.
In each corner, a local radio station would build their stage and invite the artists that performed in their genre of music.

In one day, I saw the following acts, starting at 10:30am. OAR, John Mayer, Ludacris, Run DMC, and that evening main stage featured Stone Temple Pilots.
To give you an idea of the variety, the previous evening the main stage featured Rev. Al Green.

My ticket cost $41. For a 20 year old kid it was incredible.
Yup. I was there for OAR and STP! IIRC Puddle of Mudd played that same day too. It was right after they hit it big with Blurry.

I think my favorite MMT performer was No Doubt. Gwen Stefani spontaneously decided to climb the scaffolding around the PA array, got about halfway up, then froze when she realized how high up she’d climbed and was scared to climb back down. Two security guards had to climb up and help her down.
 
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Was just listening to kings of Columbus. Doug brought up that someone had sent him the 1-8-8 schedule and before he had not thought about it. Blew his mind so much he spoke with some people at Ohio State about it and they said they’d bring it to Gene.

So I’m pretty excited that at least it might be in the conversation. There are so many ways to fuck this scheduling up and is not see some teams for 4-5 years. If they come out with a flex double protect super platinum shit I’m going to lose my mind.

What am I talking about, they couldn’t even handle a 3-6-6. They will fuck this up.
 
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To amplify what Dryden said, Cali is quite distant. From where I live (middle of state), it's a four-five hour drive to LA, SF, Sacto, easy. Depending on traffic, of course. Heck, Stanford to Cal can be a 3 hour drive if you're crazy enough to go on week day rush hour. Would imagine USC to UCLA same. Believe we're looking at this myoptically, strictly football, and not at all the other sports. Baseball teams will fly in for a 3 game series, but other sports, will fly in, play whatever sport, and then have to fly cross country. Seattle to Rutgers for a volleyball series? Wrestling? Could be that some of the universities cut back on their sports offerings. Do believe the travel costs will cut into ALL the revised B10 purses....
 
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Was just listening to kings of Columbus. Doug brought up that someone had sent him the 1-8-8 schedule and before he had not thought about it. Blew his mind so much he spoke with some people at Ohio State about it and they said they’d bring it to Gene.

So I’m pretty excited that at least it might be in the conversation. There are so many ways to fuck this scheduling up and is not see some teams for 4-5 years. If they come out with a flex double protect super platinum shit I’m going to lose my mind.

What am I talking about, they couldn’t even handle a 3-6-6. They will fuck this up.
More power to you. I couldn't listen to the first full episode of kings of Columbus with Doug....and it was a struggle to get through the second. I don't know how much more I can do.
 
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I had to look up this Marvelous 3 band. Never heard of them or their one hit song. Were they solely an Atlanta band? Record sales according to Wiki were not good. However, I learned something new today.

They were huge in Atlanta. Played at the Variety Playhouse in Little Five Points often. I saw them three times. Twice as the closing act on the alternative/hard rock stage at Music Midtown, and once at a free concert they held in Olympic Park. Their hit Freak of the Week got some airplay on 99.7 in Columbus, but unfortunately for them they got passed over by Nu Metal and the post-grunge bands. Linkin Park, Evenescence, Staind, Blink 182, and Incubus didn’t leave a lot of airtime for other bands back in that time.

Marvelous 3 came along five or six years too late. They would’ve slotted in much more naturally in the mid/late 90s with acts like Matchbox 20 and Third Eye Blind.

They closed every show with a cover of ‘Always Something There to Remind Me,’ usually with massive balloon & confetti drops.
 
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