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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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Buckeye86 said:
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Unfortunately, Cal and Stanford figured out too late that football drives the market…..quality football eventually drives the market more…..investment in winning football is what brings the brand value

Cal had everything it needed….huge market, great campus & stadium…….only intermittent success
Stanford probably doesn’t care as the real prize is research…..football is a pimple on the butt to them

Oregon State and Washington State are nice little programs who frequently punched above their weight class…….sorry, the states of Washington and Oregon aren’t big enough to support 2 big time programs each
 
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BuckBackHome said:
Waiting for Akron U to double-down. Double their current coaching staff's salaries and double the size of their stadium, which sits empty...even during games.
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The six Ohio MAC schools' athletic departments took a total of 118 million dollars away from academics and their students last year from a high of 26M at Fredo of Ohio to a low of 14M at Bowling Green. The juggalos took 27M, and that's certain to go up as they try to compete on The Island Of Misfit Toys. That's the real problem in Ohio higher education that the legislature needs to be addressing.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
The six Ohio MAC schools' athletic departments took a total of 118 million dollars away from academics and their students last year from a high of 26M at Fredo of Ohio to a low of 14M at Bowling Green. The juggalos took 27M, and that's certain to go up as they try to compete on The Island Of Misfit Toys. That's the real problem in Ohio higher education that the legislature needs to be addressing.
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Nothing to do with football though. They carry their weight (minus Covid year). 100% because of Title IX.
 
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heisman said:
Nothing to do with football though. They carry their weight (minus Covid year). 100% because of Title IX.
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Not really. Data is a little bit old but still valid. For 2015, only two MAC football programs turned a profit. They may take in significantly more revenue than Olympic sports, but that doesn't equate to not needing to be subsidized.

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ORD_Buckeye said:
Not really. Data is a little bit old but still valid. For 2015, only two MAC football programs turned a profit. They may take in significantly more revenue than Olympic sports, but that doesn't equate to not needing to be subsidized.

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I found a more detailed description using the same year numbers. Charities are known for really creative accounting. You’ve got revenue from basically two sources, football and men’s basketball. No one else brings anything into the kitty. It’s how they choose to clarify and distribute “direct institutional support”. Want a good laugh? Check out Akron‘s P&L in both football and basketball. Exactly the same. :lol:

www.shawlocal.com

Behind the numbers: Where MAC athletic departments rank in spending, profit

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ORD_Buckeye said:
Stanford is finding out the hard way that Notre Dame only cares about Notre Dame. They'll still take the annual game with Stanford because they crave their announcers spending three hours comparing them to Stanford academically, though. If we take Stanford, we should make them giving up their ND series a condition of it. Petty? Perhaps. Satisfying? Absolutely.
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Welp, if we took Stanford and added them to Michigan we'd just about have the arrogance trophy wrapped up.
 
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