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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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Mike80 said:
So with Colorado leaving what's left of the Pac-12....what happens now?

No real candidates for expansion.

One school that made geographic sense (SDSU) bailed already.

Keeping what's left is going to be increasingly harder I think, especially if the Big Ten comes in to pick the bones.
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I don't think SDSU bailed. I think they had their bags packed for an invitation that never came. I think the PAC will try and backfill with SDSU, UNLV and Colorado State.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
I think the PAC will try and backfill with SDSU, UNLV and Colorado State.
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Fellas - I don't know about you, but I'm thrilled about the following:

It's New Years Day.
The kids are still enjoying their Christmas toys and the house is clean with all decorations put away.

It's cold outside so you've got a big pot of chili or maybe some potato soup on the stove with some ham and cheese, Kings Hawaiian sliders in the oven. The diet starts on Monday, so you are going to enjoy yourself for one more big day of football.
You flip on the TV at 6:30pm - It's the Rose Bowl! The Granddaddy of them all.

Ohio State is up 38 points on Colorado State at halftime. The stadium is half empty by 8:00pm.
 
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BigWoof31 said:
Fellas - I don't know about you, but I'm thrilled about the following:

It's New Years Day.
The kids are still enjoying their Christmas toys and the house is clean with all decorations put away.

It's cold outside so you've got a big pot of chili or maybe some potato soup on the stove with some ham and cheese, Kings Hawaiian sliders in the oven. The diet starts on Monday, so you are going to enjoy yourself for one more big day of football.
You flip on the TV at 6:30pm - It's the Rose Bowl! The Granddaddy of them all.

Ohio State is up 38 points on Colorado State at halftime. The stadium is half empty by 8:00pm.
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Are you implying that Ohio State only got half the stadium filled?
Was Ohio State not able to get into the watered-down playoffs? Or is the Rose Bowl one of the playoff games? How did Colorado State get into the playoffs? Or win the PAC, for that matter? Or... wait... I'm confused.
Are there any beans in your chili?
Why are you waiting until 6:30 to turn the TV on on NYD? "Enjoy yourself for one more big day of football" implies that you turn the TV on at noon, at the latest.
How did you get the house clean?
As a Georgia fan, I'll assume you're in Georgia. How cold is "cold" there?
A similar but reverse situation almost happened a few years ago - Ohio State gave up about 35 points in the first half against Utah. That turned out okay, in the end, though.
 
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Crazy to see that the pac appears to be failing before the big12. When I compare the 2:
PAC has cali, the biggest state and other states that are growing and/or have good metro areas. Arizona, Washington, Oregon, Utah, Colorado. All awesome states with the biggest state in the country.
Big12 has Texas, which is the top tier, but that’s half of their freaking conference, and none of them are top 2 in the state. But WV, Iowa, Kansas and Oklahoma are all states that scream stagnation. They are picking up some mid tier schools from better states, but none have much of a fan base.
Yes TCU made the playoffs and won a game, and Okie state and Baylor has been relevant recently, but I’d still take Oregon and Washington over any of them long term.
To me this just shows how badly the pac 12 fucked this up. They really should have been going hard after the top b12 schools (tcu, okie st, Kansas) and given an offer to SDSU to get back into southern CA. I’m shocked that the big12 was saved by adding 4 of the top g5 schools.
Colorado may be the worse team in the PAC, but Denver is exploding.
 
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TampaBuckeyes said:
Crazy to see that the pac appears to be failing before the big12. When I compare the 2:
PAC has cali, the biggest state and other states that are growing and/or have good metro areas. Arizona, Washington, Oregon, Utah, Colorado. All awesome states with the biggest state in the country.
Big12 has Texas, which is the top tier, but that’s half of their freaking conference, and none of them are top 2 in the state. But WV, Iowa, Kansas and Oklahoma are all states that scream stagnation. They are picking up some mid tier schools from better states, but none have much of a fan base.
Yes TCU made the playoffs and won a game, and Okie state and Baylor has been relevant recently, but I’d still take Oregon and Washington over any of them long term.
To me this just shows how badly the pac 12 fucked this up. They really should have been going hard after the top b12 schools (tcu, okie st, Kansas) and given an offer to SDSU to get back into southern CA. I’m shocked that the big12 was saved by adding 4 of the top g5 schools.
Colorado may be the worse team in the PAC, but Denver is exploding.
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PAC has multiple schools that other conferences want. Once USCLA left, it was open season for poaching. After the OUT left the B12, they had exactly ZERO schools that other conferences (P12 included) wanted. Their utter mediocrity and lack of attractiveness in a weird twist of fate actually became their superpower.

Also, I wouldn't be too surprised that when all the dust has settled we find out that the networks deliberately slow played their negotiations with the PAC in the hopes that it would splinter and scatter, and they'd just end up with the best properties on the cheap as they were absorbed into existing partners.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
PAC has multiple schools that other conferences want. Once USCLA left, it was open season for poaching. After the OUT left the B12, they had exactly ZERO schools that other conferences (P12 included) wanted. Their utter mediocrity and lack of attractiveness in a weird twist of fate actually became their superpower.

Also, I wouldn't be too surprised that when all the dust has settled we find out that the networks deliberately slow played their negotiations with the PAC in the hopes that it would splinter and scatter, and they'd just end up with the best properties on the cheap as they were absorbed into existing partners.
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Don’t underestimate this as a life strategy. It’s really worked for me.
 
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