Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[JCOSU86]

With the destruction of the Big XII, the ACC is now the bottom-feeder of the Power 4.

The ACC will gain far more from this alliance than either the B1G or the Pac 12.

This is an excellent point.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

This is an excellent point.

If we look past all of the nothing they said at the press conference and surmise that, in spite of their vague noises to the contrary that they are, in fact, going to resist playoff expansion in the near term, then this alliance has already helped the ACC more than it could ever help the B1G. In fact, it has saved the ACC.

The big piece of news under this heading before the alliance rumors were first leaked was that Clemson and FSU were finna head on over to the SEC. That noise stopped immediately. Based on that alone, it seems to me that the stuff going on behind the scenes made it very plain to them that they could fight for one or at most two playoff spots with the entire rest of the SEC or they could remain where they are and have a much easier road.

Like a swimming duck, this alliance probably looks a lot different "under the water" than it does above the water. Above the water it looks like nothing is happening. Below the water is where all of the action is.

 

[Woody1968]

I don't know. IMO, even before the "alliance" the ACC had more future potential than the PAC, they just have a shitty TV deal.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

I don't know. IMO, even before the "alliance" the ACC had more future potential than the PAC, they just have a shitty TV deal.

What would their future have looked like if they'd lost Clemson and FSU?

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

As a magnanimous and beneficent overlord The B1G is perfectly willing to allow benefits to flow to those under its protection so long as they keep up their end of the bargain.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

B12 will take the following:

Juggalos
Truck Drivers
Mormons

And one of the following: UCF, Houston, Colorado State, Memphis, SDSU or UNLV

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

B12 will take the following:

Juggalos
Truck Drivers
Mormons

And one of the following: UCF, Houston, Colorado State, Memphis, SDSU or UNLV

I say they take them all. We can call it Conference USA...oh wait.

 

[BuckTwenty]

ESPN (free) - "West Virginia Mountaineers President Believes College Football Playoff Expansion 'On Life Support,' Won't Vote For Proposed 12-Team Model"


Gordon Gee says he's going to vote against college football playoff expansion. It has to be a unanimous vote for it to pass, so this is a big deal. Says he thinks the B1G & Pac 12 will also likely vote no

Seems like karma that the Big 12 will be the one that for sure will put the 12-team playoff expansion talks to bed. Giant middle finger to SEC & ESPN

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

not karma
just consequences

 

[AJHawkfan]

Consequences suck, both short and long term. The playoff expansion that SEC/ESPN was counting on now seems extremely unlikely. Long term the (self-proclaimed) worldwide leader in sports has intentionally painted themselves into a regional corner of the country. More and more people across the country who have only kept cable for ESPN and college football will be cutting the cord, which will lead to larger losses and will ultimately accelerate that death spiral that ESPN has been in for a few years now.

 

[jwinslow]

Like a swimming duck, this alliance probably looks a lot different "under the water" than it does above the water. Above the water it looks like nothing is happening. Below the water is where all of the action is.

 

[Woody1968]

What would their future have looked like if they'd lost Clemson and FSU?

Was never going to happen.

 

[cincibuck]

More and more people across the country who have only kept cable for ESPN and college football will be cutting the cord, which will lead to larger losses and will ultimately accelerate that death spiral that ESPN has been in for a few years now.

I'm not cutting the cord and for more reasons than the one you mentioned, but without Fox, ESPN, and BTN couldn't we find ourselves back to the 50 and 60s with only two or three games available? Do you see, or know of, alternatives that will be taking the place of the status quo? Having tried streaming and found it lacking, I'm wary of the future.

 

[dragurd]

I'm not cutting the cord and for more reasons than the one you mentioned, but without Fox, ESPN, and BTN couldn't we find ourselves back to the 50 and 60s with only two or three games available? Do you see, or know of, alternatives that will be taking the place of the status quo? Having tried streaming and found it lacking, I'm wary of the future.

YouTube TV isn't bad. It's got everything I need except history channel. And I'll probably be a sucker and pay the 9.99 extra during the season to be able to watch the Buckeyes in 4k on Fox

 

[exhawg]

I wonder how many people would be forced to pay for streaming if they pulled ESPN, FS1, BTN, etc. off of cable and went streaming only? I have ESPN on Sling, but I'm not willing to pay extra to get BTN in HD so I just watch it in SD from my Internet company since they don't filter out basic cable. I really only care about tOSU football so I would only need to sign up for those services for 4-5 months. If I want to watch Indians or Cavs games they are in SD. The only real reason I pay for Sling is a few live sports and my wife's viewing habits. Kids only watch Netflix and Disney+