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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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I was hoping this statement by the Domers would stop all of the talk in this thread about them joining the conference.
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Sometimes they just want to see the pretty earrings first.

There is "no" as in NO!

And then there is "no" as in "this is my bargaining position."
 
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Oh8ch;1622105; said:
No credible evidence. But I don't believe they make this announcement if they anticipate saying "oh, never mind" down the road.
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From the Big 10 office:

"In 1993, 1998 and 2003 the COP/C, in coordination with the commissioner's office, reviewed the issue of conference structure and expansion."

Big Ten Statement on Expansion - BIG TEN OFFICIAL ATHLETIC SITE

The B10 seems to make the announcement every five years or so just to say, "Oh, never mind."
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1622318; said:

Nein, Nein, Nein!
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I am thinking you don't like that idea.

ORD_Buckeye;1622318; said:
If we go to 14, we think BIG and we think strategically. One school from the East that brings us the NYC market--that's Syracuse. One school from the West--preferably Texas but Mizzou as a backup. One "national" school. Domers if they see the light....Toronto if they don't. Hell, if we're taking our dial to 11....err 14, we roll the dice.
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It would be a toss up between Syracuse and Rutgers. Which ever school would expand the market more I would be all for. Neither one would bring anything to the table in terms of football strength.

Texas does not make sense geographically. I thought one of the stipulations would be that the school needs to be in a state that borders the current Big Ten. I would love to have them in the conference. Ohio State and Texas has started a mini rivalry with the last three games they have played. That would be huge to have a Texas/Ohio State or Texas/Penn State match up in the Big Ten Championship game.

The Notre Dame ship has sailed. As stated before, they do not fit academically.
 
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CalvinistBuck;1622333; said:
From the Big 10 office:

"In 1993, 1998 and 2003 the COP/C, in coordination with the commissioner's office, reviewed the issue of conference structure and expansion."

Big Ten Statement on Expansion - BIG TEN OFFICIAL ATHLETIC SITE

The B10 seems to make the announcement every five years or so just to say, "Oh, never mind."
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I think it's a little unfair to mention the 2003 statement.

It was quite evident that their focus has been on creating, building and launching the Big Ten Network. That was the clear cut focus for much of this decade, which is why expansion was on the "back burner". They now have the network established, so they can put their focus on their next plan of attack to further build the conference, and to be honest I'd be shocked if they didn't expand given the large amount of options that I'm sure will be presented.
 
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It is much more important for ND to stay independent... because that's the only way they can continue to lose to Big East, Big 10, Pac 10 and an independent... in the same season.. two times each no less
 
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In this day and age of air travel, i think one could make an argument to challenge the status quo of organizing conferences by geographical locations.

With that said, minneapolis to austin is 1034 miles. Tucson to Seattle is 1219.

Would Texas ever join? I have no idea. I just wanted to throw this out there for everyone to ponder.
 
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fourteenandoh;1622641; said:
In this day and age of air travel, i think one could make an argument to challenge the status quo of organizing conferences by geographical locations.

With that said, minneapolis to austin is 1034 miles. Tucson to Seattle is 1219.

Would Texas ever join? I have no idea. I just wanted to throw this out there for everyone to ponder.
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I agree that the travel cost would not be a deciding factor. I can understand if Texas bused to some games, but the fly to most I would assume since it would be 3-4 hour bus rides to most other close schools in the Big 12. But the only additional cost would be some added jet fuel.

I think the only real stumbling block to Texas going to the Big 10 is the Texas government. I can easily seeing the state government pitching the biggest fit about leaving behind all the other Texas schools in the dust. I am also sure Mack Brown would be against it since it would mean having to schedule Oklahoma and/or Texas A&M in their non-conference schedule and that could be a nasty schedule. Plus I can see all the Texas schools recruiting against Texas by saying that their parents wouldn't be able to see their sons play close to home.
 
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I agree that the travel cost would not be a deciding factor. I can understand if Texas bused to some games, but the fly to most I would assume since it would be 3-4 hour bus rides to most other close schools in the Big 12. But the only additional cost would be some added jet fuel.
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Again, it is not just the football team we are talking about. The official site lists 30 sports that OSU competes in. Certainly Texas does not compete in all of those sports and we wouldn't be going to Austin every year, but that can add up to a lot of jet fuel plus over night accommodations that might not be required for a trip to South Bend or Lexington.

And while that might not be a deciding factor for OSU or Purdue - every Texas team in every conference sport would have to get on a plane for every conference road competition. That adds up to a lot of jet fuel, a lot of per Diem and a lot of extra time out of the classroom.

With the sums involved that still may not be a deciding factor, but it is not a trivial consideration.
 
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TYsweet44;1622722; said:
living in cincinnati has been tough on Buckeye fans like myself lately, now that UC fans suddenly exist, and they're getting pretty cocky, i'd personally love to see the bearcats in the Big Ten so we can beat up on them evry year. :oh:
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I think all ten times in the last 102 years have been quite enough.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1622754; said:
You'd think they'd be able to sell their tix allotment to the Sugar
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I think they did but Florida didn't. It looks like Florida fans are not very excited to play UC. And who can blame them? This is why this bowl system sucks. Three midmajors in BCS bowls, what a crappy bowl lineup.
 
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