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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
I assume you're talking about Big Ten CCG, and I agree - they weren't even among the 2 best teams in their division. Wisconsin was 4-4 in conference, losing to Ohio State (8-0) and Penn State (6-2). They also lost to Nebraska and Michigan State. Then they beat Nebraska (I can't say those two words without laughing). I know that was a very strange circumstance that won't repeat itself many times (if any), but I don't think it's good to let an 8-5 team into the playoffs.
How about 2018? Northwestern was 8-4 going into the championship game against Ohio State. They were 0-3 out of conference, including losses to Duke and Akron. If they magically beat Ohio State in the conference championship game, I say they still don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
I don't like the idea that this list of conferences is by rule better than this list of conferences. We all know that they are better, but don't write it into the rules. I say make this the procedure: only rank 12 teams. Anyone 13 and above can go eat macaroni and fuck off - you aren't in the playoffs. Of those 12 teams, pick the top 8 conference winners. If there are only 6 conference winners in the top 12, then cool - you get to have 2 at-large spots. If you have only 4 conference winners, you get 4 at-large spots. If you have 9 conference winners in the top 12, then sorry Bowling Green, there's only 8 invitations and you didn't get one. We all know that the 5 conferences will get teams into the playoffs more consistently that the other 5. I guess that theoretically, you could have a #2 team in the country not get into the playoffs, if #1 and #3-9 are all champions of their conferences. Meh...
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NYG21254246
All-American
The two highest ranked ones.
It also penalizes ND, for not doing the thing they should have done years ago- JOIN A CONFERENCE
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
I'm OK with a shitty P5 champ getting in once in awhile. Agree that the 2 at-large should be the best of the bunch.
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My issue with all of it is the more you peg a conference championship to a playoff slot by rule, the more weight you put on the CCG's. The more weight you put on the CCG's, the sooner we see someone resting players/otherwise diminishing the rivalry games, which are traditionally the week before a CCG.
The regular season in CFB is the best thing in sports. Now that we have seen both a pre and post playoff model, I'd be content to go back to the old way. This playoff does nothing for me and it risks, at least to some degree, diminishment of The Game. The SEC and ACC network owner's invitational tournament isn't worth it to me.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
The "old way" ship has sailed. The CFPs are all about the money now (and this article is a year old, expanding the CFP will be even more $$$):
Here’s The College Football TV Money At Stake For Each Conference And Network
Indeed, the richest college conferences have been reshaped over the past decade or so by the big increase in money the networks have ponied up to televise college football. For 2020, for example, ESPN/ABC, Fox and CBS are on the hook for a combined $1.4 billion (see chart below), excluding the 12-year, $5.6 billion deal ESPN has to televise the playoffs. It also does not include conference networks, in which media companies also have sizable investments.
Entire article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeoz...-each-conference-and-network/?sh=720ee3477dc9
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No doubt. Didn't think we had to add the "I know money will win out and it will expand no matter what" disclaimer to every post anymore but, I know the money will win out and the playoffs will expand no matter what.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
“I’m of the opinion that we need to expand,” Smith said. “I do believe we’re going to expand. I believe we should expand.
“There’s a lot to be worked out there, but I think it’s going to happen, I really do. It’s just a matter of when.”
The College Football Playoff announced last month that its management committee has reviewed 63 different models for potentially expanding the playoff field, including models that would feature six, eight, 10, 12 or 16 teams. Smith said he is “probably more comfortable with expanding to eight, as opposed to 12 or 16,” citing concerns about how a sizably larger playoff could impact the regular season.
“When we moved from the BCS to the CFP, as I shared before, I was concerned about the regular season then. I was also concerned about devaluing the other bowls. And that has happened,” Smith said. “The other bowls have been devalued. We’ve had more opt-outs than we’ve ever had, student-athletes not participating in those bowls. And when we go to eight, 12, whatever it ends up being, that will continue. Those bowls will become less important. Student-athletes may not want to play in them. And they’ll be devalued.”
Smith said he is also “a little concerned” about expanding before the conclusion of the College Football Playoff’s current television deal with ESPN, which runs through 2026, citing a desire to “go to the open market.” But he acknowledged “that’s not a decision I’ll get a chance to be a part of.”
Those concerns aside, Smith is in favor of an expanded playoff, which he believes should include automatic qualifying berths for the Power 5 conference champions. He also believes conferences that play nine or more conference games, as the Big Ten does, should get “seeding preference.”
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I think 8 is probably a good number. 4 probably isn't large enough, but I don't think there are 16 teams that are good enough to win in football any give season. I don't really care what they do as long as everyone plays the same number of games. I'd be happy with 32 teams as long as the first 3 rounds are on the higher seeded teams home field.
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BuckeyeSoldier
2 time Reigning BuckeyePlanet Poker Champion
college football is the best sport in the country and all anyone wants to do is make it more like inferior products.. i get the powers that be just want money.. why fans agree with this shit is mind boggling.. unless these are just nfl and generic sports fans that dont even care that much but want to add their 2 cents.
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Right?
As a fan, knowing the money will win out, if I want to watch a sport where the regular season is meaningless I can go watch the NBA (among many others). I don't watch the goddamn NBA.
I have seen CFB before the playoffs and after the playoffs. The before picture was actually better. I know it will change but they had it right the first time.
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As a tOSU fan I'm expecting to get screwed over by the bye weeks and have to play every game while Bama and Clemson get to rest an extra week. Even with 8 teams I would like to play the first round at the home field of the top 4 teams. Make some of the SEC schools play in Cbus in December and see how that goes.
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FBS football is the only sport where opinions matter just as much as what happens on the field and it’s stupid.
Anything to remove the human biases out of it makes the product better. The politics of it all have been trash forever. It shouldn’t stay that way just because it’s been that way.
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