Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[MaxBuck]

Horse[Mark May].

Which is why MUP rates them among the Top 25 research institutions in the US ahead of Purdue, Sparty, Indiana, Iowa & UNL.

Yes they only do about $100M a year on research but what they focus on is highly regarded.

I think $100M is small enough to support my comment that Notre Dame is not a research institution; they're an undergrad institution that dabbles in research.

I disagree with you, but I'm not going to say what you've written is horseshit.

Even if I think it.




Which of course I don't.

 

[MaxBuck]

MUP rates them among the Top 25 research institutions in the US ahead of Purdue, Sparty, Indiana, Iowa & UNL.

Please Identify which of the following MUPs (source: acronyms.thefreedictionary.com) is your MUP:

MuP Manchester University Press (UK)
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MUP Multiple UNC Provider
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MUP Master Use Permit (construction)
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MUP Mashup (web application that combines content from more than one source )
MUP Movimiento de Unidad Popular (Spanish)
MUP Motor Unit Potential
MUP Multi-Use Path
MUP Mission to Unreached Peoples (Seattle, WA)
MUP Manufacturing Use Product (EPA)
MUP Michigan's Upper Peninsula
MUP Manual Unpacking
MUP Millersville University of Pennsylvania
MUP Ministarstvo Unutrasnih Poslova (ministry of internal affairs - Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia)
MUP Movimento para a Mobiliza??o e Unidade dos Professores
MUP Missouri Union Presbytery
MUP Mobile Upload
MUP Master Update Program
MuP Multiple User Personality (message boards)
MUP Most Urgent Packet
MUP Metrics Utilization Plan
MUP Methyl Umbelliferone Phosphate
MUP Martin's Unit=Power (hip hop group; Haiti)
MUP Mixed Use Project (zoning)
MUP Man Utd People (Manchester United fan forum)
MUP Mobile Update Package

 

[OSU_D/]

Remember the importance of 'markets' is not directly comparable between the B1G & SEC.

The B1G owns a network that it can monetize through carriages rates...the SEC doesn't.

Except they will get more money from ESPN in the short term and can always adopt the Big 10 model in the long term.

 

[jwinslow]

Except they will get more money from ESPN in the short term and can always adopt the Big 10 model in the long term.

If by long term, you mean in 2025, almost two decades after the BTN opens, meaning it will probably be 2028-30 before it is taking off, if it does at all.

The B1G also has a lot stronger winter sports market to keep the network profitable during basketball season.

 

[Muck]

Anyone think they could eventually "switch" from the SEC to the "B1G"?

God I hope not. Missouri administrators & fans have proven themselves to be a clown car stuffed to the roof with buffoons over the past couple of years.

I think $100M is small enough to support my comment that Notre Dame is not a research institution; they're an undergrad institution that dabbles in research.

I disagree with you, but I'm not going to say what you've written is horseshit.

Even if I think it.

Feel free think whatever you wish, just don't forget I'm not the one just making shit up

The Center for Measuring University Performance is a research group attached to Arizona State.

Their annual report is titled Top American Research Universities.

 

[MaxBuck]

Feel free think whatever you wish, just don't forget I'm not the one just making [Mark May] up

The Center for Measuring University Performance is a research group attached to Arizona State.

OK, I'll keep in mind that it's Arizona State who is just making shit up.

Seriously, I don't really care whether ND or anyone else is "ranked" by one entity or another. I'm sure the ND marketing staff uses this ranking, and for all I know the MUP is truly a respected ranking, though I know nothing about it (I don't follow academia very closely, I'll admit). But bottom line: it's clear ND wants nothing to do with the B1G, which is fine by me. From my perspective, they're like the fat chick looking at herself in the Fun House mirror: their self-image is completely unrealistic.

The ND alumni I know got excellent undergrad educations. But they needed to go elsewhere for grad school because such opportunities were unavailable there. The paucity of graduate study programs at ND is not consistent with the B1G.

Besides which, Brian Kelly is a dickhead.

 

[OSU_D/]

From Shaggy.....

 

[DaveyBoy]

agree...this should probably be scenario #1....and we will extend (and rescind) the invitation to ND live on the BTN.

Scenario #5 - ND says yes, BiG tells them to [censored] off. Georgia Tech goes to the Big XII, VaTech to the SEC....

....immediately ask Maryland, UNC, UVa and Duke.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

If the domers do choose another conference, then can at last--at long fucking last--can the Big Ten schools finally grow a fucking sack and stop scheduling Notre Dame in ANYTHING! Treat them like the piece of garbage that they are.

 

[jwinslow]

If the domers do choose another conference, then can at last--at long fucking last--can the Big Ten schools finally grow a fucking sack and stop scheduling Notre Dame in ANYTHING! Treat them like the piece of garbage that they are.

They can send a message on principle, but it won't hurt their bottom line.

They may struggle to consistently match the ratings of the Michigan game but might make it up when replacing Purdue & Sparty.

 

[jlb1705]

God I hope not. Missouri administrators & fans have proven themselves to be a clown car stuffed to the roof with buffoons over the past couple of years.

Missouri also initiated the FOIA request that took down Jim Tressel. That should make Ohio State into a "no" vote against them eternally.

Not that Missouri is to blame for that mess... but fuck them.

 

[billmac91]

Syracuse and Pitt must be really happy with their decision at this point...

I'd imagine Cuse' and Pitt both have their feelers out big time....

 

[Mike80]

Syracuse and Pitt must be really happy with their decision at this point...

I'd imagine Cuse' and Pitt both have their feelers out big time....

And I'd imagine their first choice (The BIG) has said Yeah....no.

 

[HorseshoeFetish]

The only reason to take Pitt ..is for the pure joy of watching Mark May explode every weekend...of course to enjoy that you'd have to actually watch espin. And even that would get old soon enough.

ND and The "U" could start a conference...They could have the convicts and catholic divisions..eh strike that....maybe the convicts and misdemeanors divisions.

Maybe we could steal Oregon and put them with Wisconsin just to watch Bret's meltdown.

Georgia Tech...are they even the most popular team in Atlanta? And that option shit causes nicks on the D line.

 

[Oh8ch]

If you want a relatively good, if Texas-centric, check out this stuff from Shaggy.


Here's the three post summary of the 100 page thread. (FSU/Clem for sure, facilitated by WVa- possible Georgia Tech and Notre Dame as well)


Still waiting for ThuJone to weigh in.

OK - I have visited this link for the summary three times and still can't find any words. Anybody else having this problem?